What DAW Do You Hate?

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What DAW Do You Hate?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:16 am

Ableton Live
35
6%
Acoustica Mixcraft Pro Studio
2
0%
Apple GarageBand
24
4%
Apple Logic Pro
42
7%
Ardour
10
2%
Avid Pro Tools
53
9%
BandLab Sonar
12
2%
Bitwig Studio
17
3%
Cockos Reaper
62
11%
Harrison Mixbus
9
2%
Image-Line FL Studio
39
7%
Magix Acid Pro
2
0%
Magix Samplitude Pro X
10
2%
MOTU Digital Performer
4
1%
MuTools MuLab
2
0%
PreSonus Studio One
12
2%
Propellerhead Software Reason
15
3%
Renoise
3
1%
Steinberg Cubase
25
4%
Steinberg Nuendo
3
1%
Tracktion Software Waveform
10
2%
Hate is a negative emotion I don't give into
171
30%
 
Total votes: 562

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Tj Shredder
KVRAF
3778 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:14 am

Can Bitwig modulate Reaper? Can Bitwig modulate my soup? Can Reaper be scripted to cook a soup modulated by Bitwig?
There is so much to explore...

Next poll: which soup do you hate?

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vurt
addled muppet weed
58852 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:32 am

carrot and coriander.

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Tj Shredder
KVRAF
3778 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 am

You never tried my version of it! Fresh coriander though... I usually modulate it with Pumkin (ha, whenever I shall program a plugin, I’ll call it Pumpkin...) and a lfo will stir it...

The Grim
KVRer
6 posts since 20 Jun, 2017

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:25 pm

hmmm, that's easy, REAPER without a doubt, worst DAW ever, and certainly the Fugliest. How anyone can stand looking at it for any period of time, and how their retinas aren't burnt out if they try is beyond me, Then out of the blue you get hit with that great Windows 95 look when you open certain parts like adding FX etc, talk about flashback, like as if the general appearance wasn't bad enough . . . scary $h!t !!! REAPER should come with a pair of industrial strength welders glasses/goggles for people to wear to protect their vision.

Then you got those freakin hideous menus lol, and not to mention the reliance on many obscure 3rd party scripts for functionality, a lot of which have issues, or don't work, or cease to work properly when something changes within REAPER itself and the script fails and is no longer updated by it's creator etc. Same with the themes, most don't work 100%, always some annoyance, and then same ols thing again, when something changes in the program and the theme is no longer actively developed, or just straight out part finished and abandoned themes, scripts and addons etc.

Far to much reliance on flaky user made amateur 3rd party addons to get the job done.

Yep, a worthy winner of the most hated DAW, REAPER. :clap: :clap: :clap:

metamorphosis
KVRAF
3908 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:48 pm

No surprises that the most popular DAWs are the most hated - doesn't really make sense as a poll, you'd have to scale it by number of active users...

tooneba
KVRian
1313 posts since 6 Nov, 2012

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:51 pm

The Grim wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:25 pm
Far to much reliance on flaky user made amateur 3rd party addons to get the job done.
It's also true for ableton's m4l. Even ableton's stock one has an issue that drags your daw into crash. Was the m4l full integration of version 10 really good? It means it opens up your door for alien into your mothership.

Meffy
Skunk Mod
20869 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:59 pm

Tj Shredder wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 am
and a lfo will stir it...
For best results you'll need two LFOs, preferably sine or triangle waves, with phases in quadrature. Apply one to X-axis, one to Y-axis, and Bob's somebody's uncle.

Stormin Norman
KVRer
1 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:45 pm

I'd have 2 go with,

Reaper
Sonar/Cakewalk By Bandlab

not sure if in that order, but definitely despise both.

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antic604
KVRAF
3623 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:27 am

Kongru wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:06 am
I kind of want to start a thread called "Reaper or Bitwig?" just to watch the chaos break loose.
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vurt
addled muppet weed
58852 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:34 am

reason and logic.

not the daws as such but their nanes are an affront to my beliefs :ud:

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Hink
Rad Grandad
30550 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:28 pm

antic604 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:27 am
Kongru wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:06 am
I kind of want to start a thread called "Reaper or Bitwig?" just to watch the chaos break loose.
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antic604
KVRAF
3623 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:33 pm

Hink wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:28 pm
:uhuhuh:
:oops:
Bitwig 3 // Reason 11 // Studio One 4 Pro @ Lenovo Y730 15'' i7-8750h
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other stuff - Psytrance in Bitwig Studio tutorial

UltraByte
KVRer
11 posts since 5 Nov, 2019

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:32 am

maybe "hate" is a too strong word for it but i dislike FL Studio for having sucked up so much of my creative time. it was a natural process for me originally moving to Fruity Loops as it was one of the first around. (i started with the Voyetra Midi Sequencer on DOS)

Used it for years and yes you can do usually everythign for it - somehow - , you have built in tools for most stuff, usually, but man some aspects are really unprofessional or it shines throught hat tech people, not musicians made its concepts.

Hotkeys for the same action changing depending where you are, inconsistent naming with the rest of the industry, time consuming activities to do the simplest tasks (such as bouncing/freezing a track), inconsistent ui. 100 tools for the same purpose instead one that is polished and has a consistent ui. etc etc the piano roll rocks though.

no hate really but since i moved finally on to ableton im not distracted by the DAW usually and just focus on the music. it felt like having a burden taken of me.

Tks32tim
KVRer
29 posts since 6 Jan, 2020

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:00 pm

Couldn’t get along with logic at all,the color of it for starters...

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Yorrrrrr
KVRian
839 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from Cartagena - Colombia

Re: What DAW Do You Hate?

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:05 pm

UltraByte wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:32 am
maybe "hate" is a too strong word for it but i dislike FL Studio for having sucked up so much of my creative time. it was a natural process for me originally moving to Fruity Loops as it was one of the first around. (i started with the Voyetra Midi Sequencer on DOS)

Used it for years and yes you can do usually everythign for it - somehow - , you have built in tools for most stuff, usually, but man some aspects are really unprofessional or it shines throught hat tech people, not musicians made its concepts.

Hotkeys for the same action changing depending where you are, inconsistent naming with the rest of the industry, time consuming activities to do the simplest tasks (such as bouncing/freezing a track), inconsistent ui. 100 tools for the same purpose instead one that is polished and has a consistent ui. etc etc the piano roll rocks though.

no hate really but since i moved finally on to ableton im not distracted by the DAW usually and just focus on the music. it felt like having a burden taken of me.
Yes, switching from FL Studio to Ableton Live was the best thing I did.

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