Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

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Autobot
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680 posts since 27 Mar, 2013

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:12 am

Got a guitar but not sure about the order of fx.
Is it amp, distortion, modulation, cabinet? And what is a pre-amp for?
And what is your favorite freeware for guitars? :help:
I grew up on a junkyard, where I started to feed from hubcaps and bumpers

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vurt
addled muppet weed
61375 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:46 am

standard order

guitar
gain (comp/fuzz/distortion/od)

modulation

reverb/delay.

now, whether you go in the loop with mod and time stuff, up to you.
but id always put gain before the amp.

the order can of course change depending what sound youre after
floydy guitar sound will be as above for example
shoegazers like to put gain post reverb...

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vurt
addled muppet weed
61375 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:48 am

ps: we have a guitar subforum now 8)


youtube: that pedal show
they did a pretty good pedal order for beginners a bit back, might be worth hunting that down.

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khanyz
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1622 posts since 16 Jul, 2004 from Deepest Yorkshire

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:09 am

khanyz wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:58 am
I use a similar order for both hardware and software. That is (as required):

Guitar (or Bass) > Boost/Fuzz > DI > Overdrive > Distortion > Preamp > Modulation > Delay/Reverb > Power Amp (or just Amp if no Pre or FX Loop) > Cabinet

The purpose (at least how I use it) of the preamp is as the main tone shaper (EQ & possible Bright option) as well as providing gain and drive, or supplementing pedal fuzz/drive/distortion. The power amp only has a volume option, and sometimes not even that, so the preamp sets up the signal for it. Distorting the power amp is a good thing and sounds sweet.
I originally posted this in the pedal thread - viewtopic.php?t=532321&start=285
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Jace-BeOS
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5839 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:18 am

I’m not here to give any technically-proper advice. I’m just here to say: regardless of what you’re told, definitely do experiment with the order yourself to see what works for you. Maybe you’ll stumble onto something you would’ve missed by relying on conventional wisdom.

I now hand you back to the people with actual guitar experience ;-)
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AnX
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6519 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:20 am

whatever sounds good

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vurt
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Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:22 am

Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:18 am
I’m not here to give any technically-proper advice. I’m just here to say: regardless of what you’re told, definitely do experiment with the order yourself to see what works for you. Maybe you’ll stumble onto something you would’ve missed by relying on conventional wisdom.

I now hand you back to the people with actual guitar experience ;-)
i did try to allude to this. but yes,there are no "rules"
just have fun with it and dont annoy the neighbours. too much.

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Jace-BeOS
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Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:33 am

vurt wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:22 am
Jace-BeOS wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:18 am
I’m not here to give any technically-proper advice. I’m just here to say: regardless of what you’re told, definitely do experiment with the order yourself to see what works for you. Maybe you’ll stumble onto something you would’ve missed by relying on conventional wisdom.

I now hand you back to the people with actual guitar experience ;-)
i did try to allude to this. but yes,there are no "rules"
just have fun with it and dont annoy the neighbours. too much.
Or (if they’re awful neighbors who are already annoying everyone with their own noise), burn ‘em down to the ground with sound.
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thecontrolcentre
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26671 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:53 am

Autobot wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:12 am
Got a guitar but not sure about the order of fx.
Is it amp, distortion, modulation, cabinet? And what is a pre-amp for?
And what is your favorite freeware for guitars? :help:
Guitar - distortion - modulation - amp - cabinet
(dist/mod can be reversed)
A preamp goes before the amp to boost the signal if necessary. Audiority just released a nice free amp/cab vst

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vurt
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Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:58 am

AnX wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:20 am
whatever sounds good
just a flanger then?

AnX
KVRAF
6519 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:09 am

vurt wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:58 am
AnX wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:20 am
whatever sounds good
just a flanger then?
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Forgotten
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9874 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:20 am

Don’t forget dynamics - a wah or compressor should go at the start of the chain before gain pedals.

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vurt
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Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:32 am

Forgotten wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:20 am
Don’t forget dynamics - a wah or compressor should go at the start of the chain before gain pedals.
some like the wah post fuzz :P
my cock fight has a switch for pre/post :)

AnX
KVRAF
6519 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:34 am

don't forget to replace the guitar with a synthesizer

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vurt
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Re: Guitar fx noob. Which order of fx?

Post Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:35 am

AnX wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:34 am
don't forget to replace the guitar with a synthesizer
:lol:

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