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tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:55 am

A recent infatuation, I guess.
Untill a couple of years ago I wouldn't listen to jazz that was made after 1950. Odd how these things go.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone here likes it (I was going to write "digs it" but I managed to contain myself) and has any recomendations.

I'm mainly, um, digging (sorry) Coltrane's Love Supreme and Sun Ra's stuff. Just got Mingus' Oh Yeah but I don't think that really counts as Free jazz (although some pieces might). Like the sound of it, though. I'm looking for stuff in this vain.

Groet, Erik

Voidoid Surrealist · Post by **Voidoid Surrealist** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:07 am

It's funny, usualy it's the other way around for people, but free jazz is pretty much the only jazz I can get into. Have you heard Sun Ra's song Atlantis? It's f**king MADNESS, I really "dig it". Try some Ornette Coleman, Peter Brotzmann, AMM, or some John Zorn.

TotcProductions · Post by **TotcProductions** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:20 am

CLICK HERE

Not Free Jazz......but it is Jazz For Free.

dystonia_ek · Post by **dystonia_ek** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:43 am

More accent on 'free' than 'jazz' (though the jazz influence is felt strongly at points)

Supersilent

http://www.supersilence.net/ (unofficial site, extensive info)

Featuring the multitalented Helge Sten (Deathprod, Origami Republika)

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:04 am

Hunt down Albert Ayler for sure. Possibly the king of it all.

Newer stuff maybe would be Vandermark 5 and his other band Steam (they might be hard to track down, I only know them because I saw them live once).

Check out John Zorn's stuff on Tzadik.

Eric Dolphy isn't quite free jazz, but possibly my favourite jazz maker. Ornette Coleman's stuff from the sixties should fit. Then maybe venture into the English improv stuff from the 70s like Derek Bailey or John Stevens or David Toop.

But definitely Albert Ayler.

dystonia_ek · Post by **dystonia_ek** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:27 am

Oh, and AMM of course. Though that's pushing the jazz definition pretty far.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:28 am

For me Ornette is it. I still love it after all these year. But don't forget later Coltrane. And check out Metehny's Zero Tolerance for Silence.

Cheers,
Gordon

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:05 am

tetraplan wrote:
Anyway, I was wondering if anyone here likes it (I was going to write "digs it" but I managed to contain myself) and has any recomendations.

Try Cecil Taylor(piano), Don Cherry (trumpet), Art Ensemble of Chicago.

WillieJenkins · Post by **WillieJenkins** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:22 am

Art Ensemble of Chicago, Albert Ayler, David Murray, Don Pullen, Muhal Richard Abrams, Eric Dolphy, George Adams, Don Pullen / George Adams Quartet, Hamiet Bluiett, World Saxophone Quartet, Charles Mingus, Archie Shepp, John Coltrane and his cohorts.

Some of this stuff isn't 100% 'free' in the freest sense, but its definitely Avant-Garde.

I know I"m loaded with saxophonists, but I'm a native horn player so its my addiction

garret · Post by **garret** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:39 am

I'll third the Eric Dolphy. Check out the recently rediscovered Illinois Concert.

How about Keith Jarrett... I think you could call his live improvised solo piano concerts free jazz. I don't know what else they'd be... Start with the Koln Concert. It's just breathtaking, and to think he wrote and played it live performing in front of an audience of several thousand people.

Harder to find is John Lurie. Many pople know him as an actor, but he's also a talented sax player... Men With Sticks is my favorite of his records. It's this mesmerizing combination of polyrythmic percussion and coltrane like sax.

Hmm.. some interesting suggestions in this thread.. I'm going to have to check em out.

-Garret

thehumanPlugin · Post by **thehumanPlugin** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:57 am

I've never really been able to appreciate free jazz. It's interesting that it's the only genre of jazz that Miles never pioneered or got into. Maybe I side with him too much...

Voidoid Surrealist · Post by **Voidoid Surrealist** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:45 am

Can't believe I forgot Ayler.

Also forgot Alexander von Schlippenbach, who played with Brotzmann and Jaki Liebezeit before he was in Can. And come to think of it, Anthony Braxton's "For Alto" is essential, too.

And despite the fact that all the reviewers at amazon.com hate it, Spy vs. Spy , John Zorn's album of Ornette Coleman covers, IMHO just f**king ROCKS. He and Tim Berne just let the saxes rip into a blissful fury. People bitch about Zorn not playing it subtle or nuanced like Coleman did, but if I wanted to hear someone play Coleman songs like Coleman, I'd buy a f**king Coleman record

tetraplan · Post by **tetraplan** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:00 pm

Wow, thanks.
I think I can make this in to a long shortlist (or a short longlist).

Some familiar names here: Coleman, Taylor (heard one album but didn't really like it- mind you, it was playing in the background and this stuff definately isn't background-music), Brotzmann, Cherry.
Zorn, naturally. Still pushing bouderies, I am told.

I noticed my local vinyl-pusher has some Arts Ensemble Of Chicago records, will check those out.
//checkes time
Damn, they're closed now.

Got Nuits De La Fondation Maeght by Sun Ra. Great Moog-solo on vol. 1. Inspiring, because I try to do similar stuff in my band. Not that I would compare myself to the Mighty Sun Ra, of course.

Thanks muchly,

Groet, Erik

bebop · Post by **bebop** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:14 pm

Freejazz? CLICK HERE
and AND THERE TOO

jpazdan · Post by **jpazdan** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:29 pm

http://www.indie911.com/index.php?cID=1476

My little combo, GreyGoGreen..combines the free jazz aesthetic with drum and bass..as well as using efx in the mix after the (usually) live, one take tracking ..efx I've learned about and dl'd from KvR.

thanks, jp

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