Legal question: sampling anime and japanese voices
- KVRist
- 129 posts since 15 Dec, 2019
Hi all,
I have a question about how does it work, if I use voice excerpts from anime series and movies or other japanese voice sources like youtube videos, seiyuu demos and so on and put them into my music.
My idea is not to just put the voice without any type of modification and that's it but to cut sentences, surely process voices with vocoders and other techniques, like cutting, repeating, eq... and accompany them with my own music composition.
I might try to monetize my music in some way in the future if I end up doing something I consider good enough to be released. So there is where my concern starts, as japanese laws seem to be very strict when it comes to copyrights.
Would something like this be illegal or is it possible due to creative freedom? Should I ask before publishing anything? Or is there any place to purchase japanese voice samples so I can use them without any concerns?
*I already own a couple of vocaloid banks and I know about voiceroid, so what I am looking for here is natural human voice samples
I have a question about how does it work, if I use voice excerpts from anime series and movies or other japanese voice sources like youtube videos, seiyuu demos and so on and put them into my music.
My idea is not to just put the voice without any type of modification and that's it but to cut sentences, surely process voices with vocoders and other techniques, like cutting, repeating, eq... and accompany them with my own music composition.
I might try to monetize my music in some way in the future if I end up doing something I consider good enough to be released. So there is where my concern starts, as japanese laws seem to be very strict when it comes to copyrights.
Would something like this be illegal or is it possible due to creative freedom? Should I ask before publishing anything? Or is there any place to purchase japanese voice samples so I can use them without any concerns?
*I already own a couple of vocaloid banks and I know about voiceroid, so what I am looking for here is natural human voice samples
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- KVRian
- 882 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
In Japan, copyright is for fifty years, except for movies, which is seventy years. That would certainly eliminate all anime, but maybe you could find some movies from early Japanese cinema which might be okay.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 129 posts since 15 Dec, 2019
Thanks, that's an interesting information, I'll keep researching on this.ravasb wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:49 pm In Japan, copyright is for fifty years, except for movies, which is seventy years. That would certainly eliminate all anime, but maybe you could find some movies from early Japanese cinema which might be okay.
Do you casually know if the freedom of creativity option is completely off of the table with japanese movies and anime?
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- KVRAF
- 2317 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
I don't think 'Freedom of Creativity' is actually a real legal circumvention of copyright ! There's 'fair use' which is when you're using commercial material for review/commentary/criticism but sampling isn't really any of those things... Here's a couple of 'in plain English' sites regarding sampling and copyright:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profil ... G/sampling
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia ... 30165.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profil ... G/sampling
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia ... 30165.html
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 129 posts since 15 Dec, 2019
Thanks a lot for these links, seems like I will have to go a different path then and use voiceroid or see if I can purchase samples that are royalty freemcbpete wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:40 pm I don't think 'Freedom of Creativity' is actually a real legal circumvention of copyright ! There's 'fair use' which is when you're using commercial material for review/commentary/criticism but sampling isn't really any of those things... Here's a couple of 'in plain English' sites regarding sampling and copyright:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profil ... G/sampling
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia ... 30165.html
- Beware the Quoth
- 35476 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Why not try to reproduce the ones you're after? Record some friends doing slightly similar lines. Most of the anime Ive seen seems to have either a very constant set of voice actors or a very particular set of voice/delivery style; imitating them might be fairly straightforward.oonabe wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 2:33 pm Thanks a lot for these links, seems like I will have to go a different path then and use voiceroid or see if I can purchase samples that are royalty free
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 129 posts since 15 Dec, 2019
Not a bad idea, if I had friendswhyterabbyt wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:18 pm Why not try to reproduce the ones you're after? Record some friends doing slightly similar lines. Most of the anime Ive seen seems to have either a very constant set of voice actors or a very particular set of voice/delivery style; imitating them might be fairly straightforward.
...just joking, I mean, my friends cannot speak or pronunciate japanese and the type of voices I am looking for are quite unique sometimes.
The thing is that the music I am writing is completely inspired by japanese culture, so having voices with German or English accent would really sound weird to me.
But now that I think of it, maybe I can use my Vocaloid voice banks to emulate phrases I find interesting in anime movies. I guess it won't be easy because Vocaloid is based on singing samples so try to emulate spoken sentences might not work, that's where I think Voiceroid could be my best option
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- KVRAF
- 2317 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
Maybe a japanese text to speech web service (eg https://www.ispeech.org/text.to.speech )
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 129 posts since 15 Dec, 2019
interesting idea, thanks, I'll take a look at that as wellmcbpete wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:21 pm Maybe a japanese text to speech web service (eg https://www.ispeech.org/text.to.speech )