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antic604 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:59 pm
Ed A. wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:48 pm
antic604 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:27 am
Ed A. wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:59 amReason IMO has a "plasticky", flat sound that I don't like.
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Can you prove this nonsense? For example with a report from psychiatric hospital or at least from laryngologist? ;) :P
That’s my opinion, sorry you don’t like it. Asking me to “prove” my opinion is ridiculous.
Disagree. There are two components to your comment - objective & subjective:

1) Objective, i.e. is Reason's sound flat & plasticky? This can be easily verified by playing the same audio file or same VST & patch in Reason and other DAWs and comparing the render. This will prove there's NO significant difference and it was debunked on this very forum several times. If there's anything we could call "Reason sound" it would be the sound of its devices - synths & effects. But the same can be said about any DAW and any 3rd party VST.

2) Subjective, i.e. whether you like the "flat & plasticky" sound, assuming it was really there.

Obviously I'm not objecting to the latter, as this is your opinion. But the former is a simple matter of it being true or false, which is perfect to discuss and disagree about.
Since you’re from Poland, you likely don’t understand the English language very well. I’ll cut you a break. :D

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His English is perfect. It most probably even is on a higher level than yours. And what languages other that your native one are you fluent in?

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I haven't left Reason but I am already starting to use Ableton as an alternative.

Some of the reasons I am going back to Ableton after using Reason for a couple of years are the lack of a real track freezing mode, you can use the bounce in place option but it won't save CPU usage until you go to the midi track and turn off the instrument and effects on that track. I am having also sometimes issues with audio rendering and automation when bouncing in place or exporting songs to audio files.

Other things I don't like in Reason are the lack of MPE support and midi multichannel so I could use just one single instance of kontakt with multiple instruments instead of needing to open one instance of kontakt for each single kontakt instrument I need on my song.

The direction Reason development is taking in the last months didn't help either, focusing in the plugin rack and mobile apps rather motivated me to go away from Reason than to keep using it as my main DAW, so even when I haven't yet left Reason, that moment might be quite near depending on what direction Reason Studios decides to move in the next updates.

I hope they do some good work on their sequencer then other than what I've already mentioned here I rather like Reason very much.

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Ed A. wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:38 pm
antic604 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:59 pm
Ed A. wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:48 pm
antic604 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:27 am
Ed A. wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:59 amReason IMO has a "plasticky", flat sound that I don't like.
:dog:

Can you prove this nonsense? For example with a report from psychiatric hospital or at least from laryngologist? ;) :P
That’s my opinion, sorry you don’t like it. Asking me to “prove” my opinion is ridiculous.
Disagree. There are two components to your comment - objective & subjective:

1) Objective, i.e. is Reason's sound flat & plasticky? This can be easily verified by playing the same audio file or same VST & patch in Reason and other DAWs and comparing the render. This will prove there's NO significant difference and it was debunked on this very forum several times. If there's anything we could call "Reason sound" it would be the sound of its devices - synths & effects. But the same can be said about any DAW and any 3rd party VST.

2) Subjective, i.e. whether you like the "flat & plasticky" sound, assuming it was really there.

Obviously I'm not objecting to the latter, as this is your opinion. But the former is a simple matter of it being true or false, which is perfect to discuss and disagree about.
Since you’re from Poland, you likely don’t understand the English language very well. I’ll cut you a break. :D
we can lock this, no problem
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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dont lock it because one guy is xenophobic.

theres a better way to deal with that.
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hmmmm... why?


Ah yes...

for no reason. ;)

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jens wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:41 pm His English is perfect. It most probably even is on a higher level than yours. And what languages other than that your native one are you fluent in?

ftfy :P

but yup. can i apologise on behalf of my fellow citizen.
we dont all think that way.
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of course I dont want to or I would just do it, but the op started the attack (which could be interpreted several ways but said post was reported)...I see no reason to keep it open if he's going to act that way when people express their opinion :shrug:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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Hink wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:46 pm of course I dont want to or I would just do it, but the op started the attack...I see no reason to keep it open if he's going to act that way when people express their opinion :shrug:
fair enough.
im just a little sensitive to anti eu comments at the minute. but thats for elseehere...
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vurt wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:51 pm
Hink wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:46 pm of course I dont want to or I would just do it, but the op started the attack...I see no reason to keep it open if he's going to act that way when people express their opinion :shrug:
fair enough.
im just a little sensitive to anti eu comments at the minute. but thats for elseehere...
:wink:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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vurt wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:46 pm
jens wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:41 pm His English is perfect. It most probably even is on a higher level than yours. And what languages other than that your native one are you fluent in?

ftfy :P

but yup. can i apologise on behalf of my fellow citizen.
we dont all think that way.

or it could be... we don't all think
:tu:
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vurt wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:46 pm
jens wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:41 pm His English is perfect. It most probably even is on a higher level than yours. And what languages other than that your native one are you fluent in?

ftfy :P
:dog: :oops:

(typo - hopefully obviously enough :razz:)

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Hink wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:46 pm the op started the attack
He did? Are we talking about the same thread?

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jens wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:07 pm
Hink wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:46 pm the op started the attack
He did? Are we talking about the same thread?
how about instead of intentionally pushing my comment out of context you quote the entire thing and perhaps you will see you err
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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I don't think I took it out of context at all. The OP started the thread to discuss Reason, saying "look, I love Reason for this and that, but there's that and this that made me stop using it", which can be the base of a fruitful discussion and quite valuable to both the Props and the user-base - and even to those who are not users at this point but have a genuine interest in the application.

Then that dude - who obviously is no reason-user at all and has no intention whatsoever to use it in the future - enters the thread and posts incredidly dumb and inflammatory crap just to stirr the pot and pick a fight - and he got what he had asked for. The Lord knows I had a strong desire to punch the bugger in the face hard after he dumped his stinky poo on this thread like this.

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