The Hazards Of Using DAWs
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Whilst there are many psychological benefits in using DAW's, there is the old adage of 'too much of a good thing, has a flip side. It's rarely ever talked about and with DAWs and the manuals long diminished into virtual reality of a computer screen, the likelihood is that users and particularly young people never read them. Have they and do they even mention the cautions one should take whilst using DAWs...I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure I read Propellerheads manual back to front when I got it back in 2001...The good old days of reading paper.... One of the obvious one's is the sound level and the duration in which you listen to your music, during and after.. You'll know that feeling inside your head like you've been catapulted out into outer space and brought back to earth, in a temporary state of death..I mean deaf.. Pretty much the same as coming out from a loud night club or stadium without ear protection...
If you thought it stopped at your ears... well...no as the colour of the DAW can affect your own bio clock and sleep pattern. Blue light will keep you awake whilst orange light (not neon glow orange) will naturally do the opposite..So if you're using a DAW in a dark or dimly lit room, then consider using orange hues. Obviously this would be ineffective if flashing the web up..but you get the idea....
The bio clock of our bodies exists in many places, not just our brain but also places such as our heart. Pretty much every living thing on this planet has a body clock including that of a humble fly.. It's all related to the cycle of the cells and how they regenerate.
For those who are blind, some people will be able still to recognise when it's dark and light for other people who are blind, they may not have any sense of time either due to severed nerves from an injury and find life even more difficult because light plays such an important part of our bio clock.
Beyond our ears and eyes.. there are other aspects in where using DAWs.. can have adverse effects on one's body...
If you thought it stopped at your ears... well...no as the colour of the DAW can affect your own bio clock and sleep pattern. Blue light will keep you awake whilst orange light (not neon glow orange) will naturally do the opposite..So if you're using a DAW in a dark or dimly lit room, then consider using orange hues. Obviously this would be ineffective if flashing the web up..but you get the idea....
The bio clock of our bodies exists in many places, not just our brain but also places such as our heart. Pretty much every living thing on this planet has a body clock including that of a humble fly.. It's all related to the cycle of the cells and how they regenerate.
For those who are blind, some people will be able still to recognise when it's dark and light for other people who are blind, they may not have any sense of time either due to severed nerves from an injury and find life even more difficult because light plays such an important part of our bio clock.
Beyond our ears and eyes.. there are other aspects in where using DAWs.. can have adverse effects on one's body...
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Did you just copy an article referring to hobbies and simply did find/replace from hobby to DAW?
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Nope, these are my own words...from my own head..Mushy Mushy wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:58 am Did you just copy an article referring to hobbies and simply did find/replace from hobby to DAW?
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Struggling to find the point of the post TBH. Is there a question? Or you’re a psychological guru we should all follow?THE INTRANCER wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:00 pmNope, these are my own words...from my own head..Mushy Mushy wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:58 am Did you just copy an article referring to hobbies and simply did find/replace from hobby to DAW?
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
I'll leave that one up to you...Mushy Mushy wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:02 pmStruggling to find the point of the post TBH. Is there a question? Or you’re a psychological guru we should all follow?THE INTRANCER wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:00 pmNope, these are my own words...from my own head..Mushy Mushy wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:58 am Did you just copy an article referring to hobbies and simply did find/replace from hobby to DAW?
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Trouble or pleasantries, it’s up to the recipient to decide which.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- 1526 posts since 23 Feb, 2017
Interesting.
Taking care of your eyes is good advice, I have glasses that block eye straining blue light but you can also download a program that reduces blue light (it makes your screen more orange).
I also recommend the Firefox addon "Dark Reader" for forcing every website to adopt dark mode (even KvR).
You can't go blind from looking at your DAW every day (unless you're using Reaper) but your eyes can get strained if you spend hours in front of the computer. Also look into supporting your wrists and back.
Taking care of your eyes is good advice, I have glasses that block eye straining blue light but you can also download a program that reduces blue light (it makes your screen more orange).
I also recommend the Firefox addon "Dark Reader" for forcing every website to adopt dark mode (even KvR).
You can't go blind from looking at your DAW every day (unless you're using Reaper) but your eyes can get strained if you spend hours in front of the computer. Also look into supporting your wrists and back.
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Signatures are so early 2000s.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35496 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
What psychological benefits are there in "using DAW's?" (sic)THE INTRANCER wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:53 am Whilst there are many psychological benefits in using DAW's, there is the old adage of 'too much of a good thing, has a flip side.
Is it actually a real thing? Y'know, really.It's rarely ever talked about
Makes no sense. DAWs were always on a computer screen.and with DAWs and the manuals long diminished into virtual reality of a computer screen, the likelihood is that users and particularly young people never read them.
And your 'and with' makes an link between using something too much and not reading a manual. How does that relate again?
Who is 'they?' Last subject was 'young people', so young people should be mentioning the cautions?Have they and do they even mention the cautions one should take whilst using DAWs...
What are these cautions?
So you're not even sure if this is real. But it had paper. And didnt have anything to do with DAWs, but was actually about monitoring levels.I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure I read Propellerheads manual back to front when I got it back in 2001...The good old days of reading paper.... One of the obvious one's is the sound level and the duration in which you listen to your music, during and after..
Okay.
Nope. But I paid extra for the good drugs.You'll know that feeling inside your head like you've been catapulted out into outer space and brought back to earth, in a temporary state of death..I mean deaf..
Deafness doesnt stop at your ears?If you thought it stopped at your ears... well...
Its a shame that science think orange light wakes you up, then.Blue light will keep you awake whilst orange light (not neon glow orange) will naturally do the opposite..
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn ... adian-eye/
I guess its just as well its not all computer applications, just specifically DAWs.
So that you fall asleep while using your DAW?So if you're using a DAW in a dark or dimly lit room, then consider using orange hues.
Dont flash the web, please.Obviously this would be ineffective if flashing the web up..but you get the idea....
It sounds more like a set of bio watches, then. Too many scattered bits to be one single bio clock.The bio clock of our bodies exists in many places, not just our brain but also places such as our heart.
Nope.Pretty much every living thing on this planet has a body clock including that of a humble fly.. It's all related the cycle of the cells and how they regenerate.
They wont have any what?For those who are blind, some people will be able still to recognise when it's dark and light for other people who are blind they may not have any due to severed nerves from an injury.
Also, just checking; are these blind people young or not? Presumably the older ones have read manuals thus know that the orange light puts them to sleep?
Uhuh. You're claiming some sort of thing about the sleep patterns of people with severed eye nerves and it's erm, a thing because light, bioclock?Those that fall into the latter category judging how much sleep they need because light plays such an important part of our bio clock.
Do elucidate...
Yes, you've made such a meaningful case for ears and eyes, its only fair you just gloss over the 'other aspects'. I presume its along the line of having problems with one's nose when my DAW gets dusty for example, or that licking it tastes horrible, so I can see why there's no need to provide solid information.Beyond our ears and eyes.. there are other aspects in where using DAWs.. can have adverse effects on one's body...
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An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 2317 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
I once got a paper cut from my school's copy of the Cubase Score manual - does that count ?
- Beware the Quoth
- 35496 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
was it orange or blue?mcbpete wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:31 pm I once got a paper cut from my school's copy of the Cubase Score manual - does that count ?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 2317 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
The binder was blue....


- Beware the Quoth
- 35496 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Well, that's why its a caution. A young people without severed eye nerves should know that.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- 502 posts since 3 Feb, 2018
That's why the rule is:THE INTRANCER wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:53 am Beyond our ears and eyes.. there are other aspects in where using DAWs.. can have adverse effects on one's body...
4 hours in the gym for every 30 minutes on the DAW.