Why you left Reason?

[oonabe]

What exactly were you automating? Was it be any chance an insert FX (in an Insert slot of the channel, not under the instrument)? I believe bounce-in-place renders the output of the channel, i.e. the audio is tapped before it goes into the SSL strip and Insert FX is part of that. You need to use File / Bounce Mixer Channel or copy over the Insert FX and their automation to the audio track.

BTW, it's interesting how Bitwig's GUI bothers you so much, while Reason which is on the total opposite end of the spectrum is fine

Yeah, it is exactly that case, it is a reverb automation I put as an insert FX. I'll try it the way you described. I also remember having had audio rendering issues when exporting the whole track using the "export loop as audio file" option, have you had this problem any time?

Haha, I don't know why but I can't become friends with Bitwig's UI, but I have the same problem with Cubase and Studio One. Reason seems to be a complete different thing compared to any other DAW and maybe that's why I like it.

[Echoes in the Attic]

OOh I like this one.

Started using Reason 1.0 in... 1999 I think? Or was it 2000? Around there. It was my first music production software and was obviously mind blowing and all worked really well. Never even pushed the cpu very hard! Used it for a couple years and then moved on to grooveboxes and off computers for the sake of live shows.

Then around 2003 I started using Logic and then Ableton a couple years later. I tried Reason again around then and bought it, thinking I'd use it with REwire. Soon realized I much prefer just having everything in one project. Ableton Live took over and I ditched Reason.

[oonabe]

Other thing I don't like in Reason is that it seems not possible to export single midi tracks. When you export a midi track all midi tracks will be included so you need to do a workaround like opening a new song and use copy/paste to move individual midi tracks in the empty song and export them one by one.

[antic604]

Yeah, it is exactly that case, it is a reverb automation I put as an insert FX. I'll try it the way you described. I also remember having had audio rendering issues when exporting the whole track using the "export loop as audio file" option, have you had this problem any time?

Never used that. I was always exporting final mix using Bounce Mixer Channels because this gives you control over everything. "Export loop as audio file" seems to be doing what bounce-in-place is doing, but instead of creating new audio track it saves to file. Perhaps that's the problem. You really need to understand audio signal flow in Reason to not be surprised with stuff like that.

[oonabe]

Yeah, it is exactly that case, it is a reverb automation I put as an insert FX. I'll try it the way you described. I also remember having had audio rendering issues when exporting the whole track using the "export loop as audio file" option, have you had this problem any time?

Never used that. I was always exporting final mix using Bounce Mixer Channels because this gives you control over everything. "Export loop as audio file" seems to be doing what bounce-in-place is doing, but instead of creating new audio track it saves to file. Perhaps that's the problem. You really need to understand audio signal flow in Reason to not be surprised with stuff like that.

I'll check that too, thanks. It can indeed be the origin of the issues I had rendering audio before

[jens]

Haha, I don't know why but I can't become friends with Bitwig's UI, but I have the same problem with Cubase and Studio One. Reason seems to be a complete different thing compared to any other DAW and maybe that's why I like it.

I would say that it is indeed a very different thing in certain ways.

[Tj Shredder]

I have no reason because I have no Reason...

[apoclypse]

I started out with reason 2.5. I t was great. When 3.0 it was like heaven in music form. Amazing controller support, combinators were way before their time. Ableton didn't event racks until version 7, and that didn't make it out of the more expensive suite version until version 8. Combinators were amazing at the time.

Reason's controller support was amazing with their easy to edit and setup Remote. To me version 3.0 was Props at their best. I had moved fully to Logic at this point so I didn't bother with 4.0-5.0. Until Record came out and I got Reason with Record. Then Reason 6 came out and props asked what we would pay for it (plunked down 100 bucks).

Last time I updated was version 9.5.

Either way once I moved to more traditional DAWs like Logic, S1, etc. Reason was just clunky and backwards in comparison. Not to mention VST/Au support. that being said there are sounds that only Reason can do properly for me so I keep it around just in case. I've been thinking doing 11 now that I can run it as a plugin.

[Jace-BeOS]

Now, with this stupid ass generic name, it’s going to be far worse. It’s also just a damned stupid and boring name change.

What name change?

Company name change. From “Propellerhead” to “Reason Studios”.

Edit: Oops, I meant “Propellerhead Software”. So much more unique, that name.

[tooneba]

It could be Helicopterhead

[Jace-BeOS]

Reason IMO has a "plasticky", flat sound that I don't like.

Oh not this again...

[Jace-BeOS]

Reason IMO has a "plasticky", flat sound that I don't like.

Can you prove this nonsense? For example with a report from psychiatric hospital or at least from laryngologist?

That’s my opinion, sorry you don’t like it. Asking me to “prove” my opinion is ridiculous.

Disagree. There are two components to your comment - objective & subjective:

1) Objective, i.e. is Reason's sound flat & plasticky? This can be easily verified by playing the same audio file or same VST & patch in Reason and other DAWs and comparing the render. This will prove there's NO significant difference and it was debunked on this very forum several times. If there's anything we could call "Reason sound" it would be the sound of its devices - synths & effects. But the same can be said about any DAW and any 3rd party VST.

2) Subjective, i.e. whether you like the "flat & plasticky" sound, assuming it was really there.

Obviously I'm not objecting to the latter, as this is your opinion. But the former is a simple matter of it being true or false, which is perfect to discuss and disagree about.

Since you’re from Poland, you likely don’t understand the English language very well. I’ll cut you a break.

Wow, dude. Way to attack the messenger instead of arguing against the message. There was nothing wrong with the English, only, apparently, your comprehension of it.

[Jace-BeOS]

Oops. I see this was already handled. Sorry to perpetuate by responding to the inflammatory nonsense.

[perfumer]

Now, with this stupid ass generic name, it’s going to be far worse. It’s also just a damned stupid and boring name change.

What name change?

Company name change. From “Propellerhead” to “Reason Studios”.

Sad.

[Jace-BeOS]

Now, with this stupid ass generic name, it’s going to be far worse. It’s also just a damned stupid and boring name change.

What name change?

Company name change. From “Propellerhead” to “Reason Studios”.

Sad.

Oops, I meant “Propellerhead Software”. So much more unique.