Odd pondering.. What do YOU call this "Thing" with s Fuzzy Name?
- KVRist
- 70 posts since 6 Mar, 2012 from Ohio
What do you call this "Thing" with a Fuzzy Name...
And it's something we stare at for hours at a time.
It is the "Thing" we build within a DAW's "Edit Window".. or "Tracks Area"... or on "The Grid"... or whatever a DAW calls this workspace with a timeline grid.
There doesn't seem to be a good universal name that we give to the "Thing" we build upon this grid.
Best possibility might the Song's "Arrangement"... but this is a little broad and doesn't acknowledge that it specifically resides with a DAW's virtual realm.
The convention on paper is for a song's Arrangement to exist on staff paper and be called a "Music Score"... so there IS a more exact name for a song's Arrangement when it exists on paper.
I think a more specific and universal name would be handy.. We all kind of visual this Thing in our heads as we navigate around it to work on a particular part of the "Arrangement"..
So what works... the contextually disconnected "Arrangement"?
Or perhaps something that indicates where this form of the Arrangement exists?
A Song Map?.... Clip Map?... Arrangement Map?
How about Song Grid?.... Clip Grid?.. Arrangement Grid?
Other thoughts?
Anyone even care? It just seems that there is a missing word for this "Thing" in our workflow... and it's pretty fundamental.
And it's something we stare at for hours at a time.
It is the "Thing" we build within a DAW's "Edit Window".. or "Tracks Area"... or on "The Grid"... or whatever a DAW calls this workspace with a timeline grid.
There doesn't seem to be a good universal name that we give to the "Thing" we build upon this grid.
Best possibility might the Song's "Arrangement"... but this is a little broad and doesn't acknowledge that it specifically resides with a DAW's virtual realm.
The convention on paper is for a song's Arrangement to exist on staff paper and be called a "Music Score"... so there IS a more exact name for a song's Arrangement when it exists on paper.
I think a more specific and universal name would be handy.. We all kind of visual this Thing in our heads as we navigate around it to work on a particular part of the "Arrangement"..
So what works... the contextually disconnected "Arrangement"?
Or perhaps something that indicates where this form of the Arrangement exists?
A Song Map?.... Clip Map?... Arrangement Map?
How about Song Grid?.... Clip Grid?.. Arrangement Grid?
Other thoughts?
Anyone even care? It just seems that there is a missing word for this "Thing" in our workflow... and it's pretty fundamental.
- addled muppet weed
- 111304 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
song maps already exist.
pictorial notation.
but arrangement works.
or the mix, as thats what it is i guess.
pictorial notation.
but arrangement works.
or the mix, as thats what it is i guess.
- KVRAF
- 2069 posts since 8 Feb, 2013 from Switzerland
Keep It Stupid and Simple: I would call it "Virtual Workbench". But I guess the prefix "Virtual" is not so important because as a composer I should already be aware of the digital domain flaws nowadays.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 70 posts since 6 Mar, 2012 from Ohio
Workbench implies the area upon which the object is being created.. I'm talking about what to call the object itself that is being made.Etienne1973 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:52 am Keep It Stupid and Simple: I would call it "Virtual Workbench". But I guess the prefix "Virtual" is not so important because as a composer I should already be aware of the digital domain flaws nowadays.
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- KVRAF
- 6457 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
You've probably already stumbled on the answer. No-one actually calls it that but it's the closest to reality IMO.Jim Rosebrook wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:48 am It is the "Thing" we build within a DAW's "Edit Window".. or "Tracks Area"... or on "The Grid"... or whatever a DAW calls this workspace with a timeline grid.
- KVRAF
- 2069 posts since 8 Feb, 2013 from Switzerland
No every day occasion more rarely I experience myself as black magician while creating music. Logically my object's name is "Black Magic" then.Jim Rosebrook wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:22 amWorkbench implies the area upon which the object is being created.. I'm talking about what to call the object itself that is being made.Etienne1973 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:52 am Keep It Stupid and Simple: I would call it "Virtual Workbench". But I guess the prefix "Virtual" is not so important because as a composer I should already be aware of the digital domain flaws nowadays.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 70 posts since 6 Mar, 2012 from Ohio
Even if events don't fall on the even markings of a grid, they are still displayed on a grid.imrae wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:48 am It's not a grid because nothing has to be regular or aligned on the time axis.
A Music Score is called a Score because of the vertical score lines on the time axis.
So using the word grid is somewhat akin to using the word Score.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 70 posts since 6 Mar, 2012 from Ohio
Arrangement is still a bit broad.. If a song's Arrangement when illustrated on staff paper is called a Music Score.. a song's Arrangement when illustrated on a DAW grid is called a ????vurt wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:51 am song maps already exist.
pictorial notation.
but arrangement works.
or the mix, as thats what it is i guess.
But calling this Thing the Arrangement might be as good as it gets with what's already engrained.
- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
One problem I see here is that this "work space" as it exists in most popular music software contains both audio tracks and midi tracks. A purely midi based setup is very close to a written score. A purely audio based setup is much closer to multitrack tape, though obviously much more convenient.
The problem is that a recording of a particular performance of an arrangement is epistemologically distinct from the arrangement itself. An arrangement, like a score, is an abstraction. A performance of that arrangement is, on the contrary, a concrete manifestation of that abstraction.
This distinction may seem overly subtle. But it is very real. Consider the fact that drum parts (arrangements) in pop songs are usually not protected by copyright, but a particular recording of a particular performance of that drum part would very much be protected by copyright.
The problem is that a recording of a particular performance of an arrangement is epistemologically distinct from the arrangement itself. An arrangement, like a score, is an abstraction. A performance of that arrangement is, on the contrary, a concrete manifestation of that abstraction.
This distinction may seem overly subtle. But it is very real. Consider the fact that drum parts (arrangements) in pop songs are usually not protected by copyright, but a particular recording of a particular performance of that drum part would very much be protected by copyright.
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- KVRAF
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
Overthink much?
I would usually call it the sequence. Sequence is a term which works well in any timeline type software... video editing, motion graphics, sound design for film or brand ID for radio etc. It doesn't matter what type of data the clips contain, sequence just refers to elements arranged temporally, or on a timeline.
You can even choreograph an action sequence in 3D animation software.
I would usually call it the sequence. Sequence is a term which works well in any timeline type software... video editing, motion graphics, sound design for film or brand ID for radio etc. It doesn't matter what type of data the clips contain, sequence just refers to elements arranged temporally, or on a timeline.
You can even choreograph an action sequence in 3D animation software.