I've been eying Ultrafocus for a while, and Atmosphere previously. Never bought them (yet?) because of the price. But then I was thinking why would I need another sample player engine to playback samples when there is Sampletank2? So has Sonic Reality ever seriously considered producing a product that competes agains Ultrafocus? I'm talking about a big library of synth sounds... enough patches that it can replace many of my current vsti if I wished.
I would like to hear Squid's take on this. I could be wrong, but I think such a product would be somewhat different from SR's current products: it would have to be bigger and singularly focused (SR seems to have either big&diverse or small&focused).
thanks
sluggo
Possible product?
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- KVRian
- 690 posts since 31 May, 2002 from chez moi
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- KVRist
- 267 posts since 15 Apr, 2002 from Wiltshire, UK
Well i think Sonik Synth 2 will be full of pads, it's quite big and quite nice in the utilization of it's sounds, giving you the building blocks to construct your own pads. I think it's aiming for a more vintage instrument audience, but i believe the core materials are there to create lush dynamic pads, especially if there any jd-800 type samples. 
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 690 posts since 31 May, 2002 from chez moi
I already have SonicSynth1. What I really want now is a pure synth library - no drums, guitars, pianos, etc. A synth/library that has excellent samples and sample mapping. Something that can really compete with Ultrafocus. I bet Squids already has the samples.! 
I'll keep an eye on SS2 though.
sluggo
I'll keep an eye on SS2 though.sluggo
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- KVRAF
- 3723 posts since 17 Apr, 2002 from Scotland
As far as I know, Sonik Synth 2 will fit the bill.
It's not a big library of bread-n-butter sounds like SS1, it's a library of Synths.
Check out the SS2Free demo for some examples
It's not a big library of bread-n-butter sounds like SS1, it's a library of Synths.
Check out the SS2Free demo for some examples
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 690 posts since 31 May, 2002 from chez moi
I've looked for SS2Free... ikmultimedia, esoundz, sonicrealty and I can't find it. I can't even find a post by Squids where he says where it is. Can anyone help me with its location?
thanks
s
thanks
s
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
It's not available yet. It should be here within a month. I hope you can wait that long.sluggo wrote:I've looked for SS2Free... ikmultimedia, esoundz, sonicrealty and I can't find it. I can't even find a post by Squids where he says where it is. Can anyone help me with its location?
Forever,
Kim.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 690 posts since 31 May, 2002 from chez moi
found it, google is your friend. IK had it hidden quite well I must say 
cheers
s
cheers
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
Thought we were talking about the full SS2...-
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
We did a special advanced version of Sonik Synth 2 FREE for Keyboard magazine. There's another version of Sonik Synth 2 FREE with different sounds coming soon... as well as the full version which is packed with a lot of surprises.
Sonik Synth 2 has the largest collection of synth sounds ever put together into one product, thousands of them in fact. There's also twisted synthetic percussion that will blow your mind. There's also about as much bread and butter sounds as you would find in a Motif or a Triton too... actually a lot more. This is expanding on Sonic Synth 1 mainly but some nice additions such as velocity slide up acoustic guitars, a new 150 meg piano patch called "The One" and all kinds of interesting ethnic instruments such as Duduk and Bazouki, Dulcimer etc.
It is highly competitive with the two synths you mentioned in terms of atmospheric pads and variety of synth sounds but there's also a whole side of Sonik Synth 2 as a "workstation synth" that hasn't been covered by products like Atmosphere and UF. You see, those two are only bitimbral but Sonik Synth 2 is 16 part and able to do layerable combis like many hardware workstation synths. In fact, CPU permitting I can run more fx in Sonik Synth 2 than my Triton which makes me "share" the inserts. Anyway, where the natural sounds like orchestral textures, vocal textures, pianos, bells, wine glasses etc. all become useful as a "synth" is that they are also elements of a workstation "all around synth" (such as the hardware ones I mentioned... some of which I helped program for major keyboard manufacturers like Yamaha or Alesis). That's if you take a step back and see the big picture (which the combis bring together in powerful ways).
So, pianos layered with strings and vocal pads or bells... those are "synth" sounds too. But, no matter how you define what a "synth SOUND" is Sonik Synth 2 delivers more variety of timbres than anything I've ever seen. It doesn't offer every synthesis METHOD. For that you've got all the cool variety of dedicated synths like Cameleon, Absynth etc. not to mention a Moog Voyager or whatever hardware synths one can pick up (and by all means SHOULD if they love synths). But, the sound results of many different types of synthesis are represented in depth within Sonik Synth 2. This sometimes as elements for combi patches or as single patches themselves. So, a heavy dose of analog synths... and I mean HEAVY and very cool and rare stuff included. For example, the Voyetra 8 and Gleeman. These are two REALLY cool sounding synths but they are very rare. It's great to have their timbre inside this engine. It's like having the real thing. Same for the Arp ProSoloist which I sampled every single patch it has (just for the heck of it... Tony Banks not included). Arp Quadra too. How about an Arp 2500 like the one used at the end of Close Encounters? Also other things you don't usually find such as Serge modulars, Emu modulars, Steiner Parker modulars (when's the last time you saw that? It's FREAKIN' COOL!!! Niles Steiner invented the EWI and used to make analog synths like this one and the Synthacon... BOTH sampled thoroughy in Sonik Synth 2). But, then of course you've got plenty of Oberheim SEM, OB8, Matrix 12, Jupiters, Junos, CS80, Prophets, Minimoogs, Taurus I, Modular Moog, Polymoog, VP330 vocoder, GR300 guitar synth... and a ton more and thats just analog. Then you've got digital synth sounds- wavetable, additive, fm, granular, physical modeling and synth sounds made from acoustic and electric instruments.
So, what I like about Sonik Synth 2 is that it is a lot of things to a lot of people. You can use it as a workstation writing tool with everything you need in one box to build up a track. It has over 30 IMap kits in there too (might as well right?), plenty of guitars, basses, organs... but then you've got the trackable combi patches that achieve more complex layered instruments than you normally get in a software instrument. You have such a wide range of single sounds and elements to do easy synth editing on and DSP processing with IK's modeling fx... all of that and an introductory discounted upgrade for Sonic Synth 1 owners. It is by far the best deal we've ever done.
It's also a lot larger than 5 gigs.
Sonik Synth 2 has the largest collection of synth sounds ever put together into one product, thousands of them in fact. There's also twisted synthetic percussion that will blow your mind. There's also about as much bread and butter sounds as you would find in a Motif or a Triton too... actually a lot more. This is expanding on Sonic Synth 1 mainly but some nice additions such as velocity slide up acoustic guitars, a new 150 meg piano patch called "The One" and all kinds of interesting ethnic instruments such as Duduk and Bazouki, Dulcimer etc.
It is highly competitive with the two synths you mentioned in terms of atmospheric pads and variety of synth sounds but there's also a whole side of Sonik Synth 2 as a "workstation synth" that hasn't been covered by products like Atmosphere and UF. You see, those two are only bitimbral but Sonik Synth 2 is 16 part and able to do layerable combis like many hardware workstation synths. In fact, CPU permitting I can run more fx in Sonik Synth 2 than my Triton which makes me "share" the inserts. Anyway, where the natural sounds like orchestral textures, vocal textures, pianos, bells, wine glasses etc. all become useful as a "synth" is that they are also elements of a workstation "all around synth" (such as the hardware ones I mentioned... some of which I helped program for major keyboard manufacturers like Yamaha or Alesis). That's if you take a step back and see the big picture (which the combis bring together in powerful ways).
So, pianos layered with strings and vocal pads or bells... those are "synth" sounds too. But, no matter how you define what a "synth SOUND" is Sonik Synth 2 delivers more variety of timbres than anything I've ever seen. It doesn't offer every synthesis METHOD. For that you've got all the cool variety of dedicated synths like Cameleon, Absynth etc. not to mention a Moog Voyager or whatever hardware synths one can pick up (and by all means SHOULD if they love synths). But, the sound results of many different types of synthesis are represented in depth within Sonik Synth 2. This sometimes as elements for combi patches or as single patches themselves. So, a heavy dose of analog synths... and I mean HEAVY and very cool and rare stuff included. For example, the Voyetra 8 and Gleeman. These are two REALLY cool sounding synths but they are very rare. It's great to have their timbre inside this engine. It's like having the real thing. Same for the Arp ProSoloist which I sampled every single patch it has (just for the heck of it... Tony Banks not included). Arp Quadra too. How about an Arp 2500 like the one used at the end of Close Encounters? Also other things you don't usually find such as Serge modulars, Emu modulars, Steiner Parker modulars (when's the last time you saw that? It's FREAKIN' COOL!!! Niles Steiner invented the EWI and used to make analog synths like this one and the Synthacon... BOTH sampled thoroughy in Sonik Synth 2). But, then of course you've got plenty of Oberheim SEM, OB8, Matrix 12, Jupiters, Junos, CS80, Prophets, Minimoogs, Taurus I, Modular Moog, Polymoog, VP330 vocoder, GR300 guitar synth... and a ton more and thats just analog. Then you've got digital synth sounds- wavetable, additive, fm, granular, physical modeling and synth sounds made from acoustic and electric instruments.
So, what I like about Sonik Synth 2 is that it is a lot of things to a lot of people. You can use it as a workstation writing tool with everything you need in one box to build up a track. It has over 30 IMap kits in there too (might as well right?), plenty of guitars, basses, organs... but then you've got the trackable combi patches that achieve more complex layered instruments than you normally get in a software instrument. You have such a wide range of single sounds and elements to do easy synth editing on and DSP processing with IK's modeling fx... all of that and an introductory discounted upgrade for Sonic Synth 1 owners. It is by far the best deal we've ever done.
It's also a lot larger than 5 gigs.
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- KVRist
- 267 posts since 15 Apr, 2002 from Wiltshire, UK
just tried out the demo, that phaser is sweet - so rich and lush. i like the voyetra 8 sounds a lot too. If this is a only a glimpse of the quantity of synths and sounds onboard, then this may bump stylus rmx off the top of my to get list.
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
A glimpse? This is a squint of a flea of what Sonik Synth 2 has. Not hundreds of sounds like SS1. THOUSANDS of sounds. Multiple thousands... with a search engine and pictures of the synths for reference.pricer wrote:just tried out the demo, that phaser is sweet - so rich and lush. i like the voyetra 8 sounds a lot too. If this is a only a glimpse of the quantity of synths and sounds onboard, then this may bump stylus rmx off the top of my to get list.