Hell yeah! It’s one of the best tracks on Murder Ballads!
Collaborations That Worked Or Didn't....
- KVRAF
- 2925 posts since 27 Aug, 2004
Ben Folds and Regina Spektor
Even if the piano player can't play, keep the party going.
http://www.soundclick.com/mumpcake
https://mumpfucious.wordpress.com/
http://www.soundclick.com/mumpcake
https://mumpfucious.wordpress.com/
- KVRAF
- 2925 posts since 27 Aug, 2004
Lady Gaga and Metallica
Even if the piano player can't play, keep the party going.
http://www.soundclick.com/mumpcake
https://mumpfucious.wordpress.com/
http://www.soundclick.com/mumpcake
https://mumpfucious.wordpress.com/
- KVRAF
- 5405 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
david bowie collaborated many times with so many others but never twice with anyone? he kept changing. ch-ch-ch-anges.
https://youtu.be/vkLE1Gno724
https://youtu.be/ADbJLo4x-tk
https://youtu.be/u7APmRkatEU
https://youtu.be/XlyJ-v871Og
https://youtu.be/YoDh_gHDvkk
https://youtu.be/vkLE1Gno724
https://youtu.be/ADbJLo4x-tk
https://youtu.be/u7APmRkatEU
https://youtu.be/XlyJ-v871Og
https://youtu.be/YoDh_gHDvkk
ah böwakawa poussé poussé
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- KVRAF
- 5716 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
Fripp played on several Bowie albums - and was pretty crucial to the sound in a number of cases – though maybe you could argue Adrian Belew was doing more on those productions where both were around.
Bowie did a full tour with NIN. There's a decent live album that shows how the two acts crossed over in the middle, with them covering each others' songs, rather than one acting just as support for the other.
Also, Bowie worked a fair amount with Iggy Pop (as celebrated on TEE by Kraftwerk) and Mick Ronson over long periods.
And Reeves Gabrels, though that didn't go so well artistically. They still managed two albums though.
Bowie did a full tour with NIN. There's a decent live album that shows how the two acts crossed over in the middle, with them covering each others' songs, rather than one acting just as support for the other.
Also, Bowie worked a fair amount with Iggy Pop (as celebrated on TEE by Kraftwerk) and Mick Ronson over long periods.
And Reeves Gabrels, though that didn't go so well artistically. They still managed two albums though.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105824 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 5716 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
I went to see them live before the first album came out (or maybe shortly afterwards). They were terrible and somehow managed to murder a cover of the Pixies' Debaser, which I didn't think was possible (until then).
- KVRAF
- 5405 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
but where those true collaborations?
with the heroes one, fripp was not told what to play, he just played. so that one is a true collaboration.
oh wait, on second thought, if others are credited on the songwriting credit then it's a true collaboration.
so yes, i guess maybe you are right. fripp got songwriting credits a lot with bowie? i have to double check that later. not sure about mick ronson.
i read that jimmy page produced all the led zep albums and he made sure to never use the same recording engineer twice.
i maybe wrongly thought that bowie operated similarly to jimmy page in that way, with people he worked with.
but with the bing crosby one, it's not a songwriting collaboration since they didn't write the song. but it still is a type of collaboration.
okay, to the OP... do you just mean songwriting collaboration?
with the heroes one, fripp was not told what to play, he just played. so that one is a true collaboration.
oh wait, on second thought, if others are credited on the songwriting credit then it's a true collaboration.
so yes, i guess maybe you are right. fripp got songwriting credits a lot with bowie? i have to double check that later. not sure about mick ronson.
i read that jimmy page produced all the led zep albums and he made sure to never use the same recording engineer twice.
i maybe wrongly thought that bowie operated similarly to jimmy page in that way, with people he worked with.
but with the bing crosby one, it's not a songwriting collaboration since they didn't write the song. but it still is a type of collaboration.
okay, to the OP... do you just mean songwriting collaboration?
ah böwakawa poussé poussé
- KVRAF
- 5405 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
i just looked up who wrote "i'm afraid of americans".
i'm wrong on that one too in terms of songwriting collaboration. i thought it's a bowie-reznor song. but really, it's a bowie-eno song.
gonna have to look up the other songs too, later. looking things up after instead of before is a bad habit. oh, well. okay, ciao.
i'm wrong on that one too in terms of songwriting collaboration. i thought it's a bowie-reznor song. but really, it's a bowie-eno song.
gonna have to look up the other songs too, later. looking things up after instead of before is a bad habit. oh, well. okay, ciao.
ah böwakawa poussé poussé
- KVRAF
- 8826 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
Vangelis & Anderson
Wait - any band with more than one member...
Wait - any band with more than one member...
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
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- addled muppet weed
- 105824 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
yeah he kinda lost me after scary monsters, all went a bit "dad pop rock" from there for a bit.
- KVRAF
- 5405 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
I read that much later on, with the Beatles, Paul McCartney would go away for weeks and come back with a bunch of new songs and "tell" the other beatles how to play their parts as if they are just session players.Tj Shredder wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:55 pm Vangelis & Anderson
Wait - any band with more than one member...
if my recall is correct, i may have seen on film, George Harrison being upset about being told how to play the guitar solo part for the song "let it be".
Robert smith of the cure may have been a total dictator. and mark smith of the fall too? so many personnel changes.
led Zeppelin is amazing. same members from beginning to end.
ah böwakawa poussé poussé
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- addled muppet weed
- 105824 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
there was a joke in manc amongst musos that if you waited long enough, youd be asked to be in the fallharryupbabble wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:21 pm.
Robert smith of the cure may have been a total dictator. and mark smith of the fall too? so many personnel changes.
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once, sat in a smoking circle, i passed a spliff, just lit, to mark, who stubbed it out, twisted the end and put it in his fag packet.
he could often be seen "minesweeping" drinks in bars.
bit of a c**t but a modern day poet
he will be missed.