Getting tired of synthesizers.

[AngelCityOutlaw]

That speaks volumes about your lack of exposure to a variety of music

Lmao

The reality is that everything you've said can be true for one small subset of the overall scene/market but nothing that you've said applies universally. It's all about finding what works and doing that. It's simple, really, but you choose to make it hard on yourself by seeing things the wrong way.

No, I've pointed out some very simple, obvious truths about electronic instruments that I don't really care for and you've argued either irrelevant things or actually wound up re-enforcing what I'm saying.

I don't want any guesswork or fiddle-f**king with technology in writing music. When I compose a line for a particular instrument, it is not an arbitrary choice; I chose it because I know exactly what that instrument sounds like and how it will react to a given playing technique or melody.

I also don't want to have to experiment, research, mess with dials, pedals, cabinets, oscillators, waveforms, etc. just to get a good sound out of the instrument. It's far better to just a have a good room, good mic, and sit down a great player with a quality instrument and let them play.

Whether that "thought process" makes sense to you or not, is neither my problem nor do I much care.

[BONES]

No, I've pointed out some very simple, obvious truths about electronic instruments that I don't really care for and you've argued either irrelevant things or actually wound up re-enforcing what I'm saying.

That's not what you've done at all. You've picked on things that only apply to a tiny proportion of Electronic Music and inflated it to apply to all electronic music. The absurd lengths you went to to find ridiculous, obscure Youtube clips to try and make you point should tell you that because it simply doesn't apply to the vast majority of electronic music at all. It's like saying all drummers are idiots who like to hang out with musicians. You could probably find a dozen who fit that description perfectly but the other million or so don't come close so it is simply wrong to suggest it (but also funny).

I don't want any guesswork or fiddle-f**king with technology in writing music.

And I don't want to have to stop in the middle of a set to tune my damned instrument because it can't stay in tune for 90 minutes or stop to change a string because it's not up to the way I want to play it. I don't want to be opening a valve to blow the spit out of it, either. Every instrument has it's issues but the reality is that synths have far fewer than most (and they are a lot less gross).

When I compose a line for a particular instrument, it is not an arbitrary choice; I chose it because I know exactly what that instrument sounds like and how it will react to a given playing technique or melody.

How boring is that!?! When I sit down to compose something, I have no idea how it will end up sounding because there is nothing standing in the way of me making it sound however it needs to or however I want it to. I can't think of anything more tedious or boring than knowing precisely how it is going to turn out before I've started. It's the very death of creativity.

I also don't want to have to experiment, research, mess with dials, pedals, cabinets, oscillators, waveforms, etc. just to get a good sound out of the instrument.

So buy your sounds, let someone else do that for you. Plenty of people around here do. Personally, I make patches as a separate process, kind of like practicing scales or something. You don't have to wait until you are ready to start composing and often great ideas can come out of the exercise that you can later turn into a song.

It's far better to just a have a good room, good mic, and sit down a great player with a quality instrument and let them play.

So what's the point of you, then? You may as well just go away if you're going to let other people do all the work. Your presence is pointless, a complete waste of everyone's time.

[DJ Warmonger]

So what's the point of you, then? You may as well just go away if you're going to let other people do all the work. Your presence is pointless, a complete waste of everyone's time.

Humans are redundant and will be eliminated

But I guess people just like to pluck the guitar for fun

What's really unfair is that they are commonly identified with "musicans", or "artists", while 90% of actual work is done by engineers.

[AngelCityOutlaw]

So what's the point of you, then? You may as well just go away if you're going to let other people do all the work. Your presence is pointless, a complete waste of everyone's time.

Well, generally, I'm the one who writes the music.

In the other thread, you said "who cares about ability" and bemoaned being held to any standards of quality.

Yet, right here, you're complaining about...not playing all the stuff yourself, I guess?

Do you see the mistake you've made?

[Jace-BeOS]

I SAID STOP QUOTING ME, BONES! I WILL NOT READ YOUR SHIT ANYMORE!

[ambientwalrus]

I'm not tired of synths or the process of synthesis, but I could see how they'd get old if they were the only thing I used/played. I frequently get tired of certain styles of music if they're all I listen to for a while. It doesn't mean I don't like those styles anymore or that they aren't good; it's just that I need to give them a break and change things up a little to appreciate them again.

[cantaloupe]

I'm also getting tired of synthesizers. They were fresh for a few decades as a reaction to the monoculture of acoustic dad rock and the homogenization of timbre. Now they are more common than not, and i find myself being more curious about everything else these days, from field recordings to all the weird and limited modal instruments of traditional music. Common isn't bad per se, but generally speaking synthesizers are heading towards the "classical guitar playing the oasis wonderwall chords" very quickly. We are going to see a huge counter-reaction to electronic music and synths in a couple of years, i think.

[Music Bird]

Sorry @BONES @AngelCityOutlaw.
I listen to a variety of music.

I actually forgot about Ultravox using violin. I personally prefer the sound of the viola more.
Dream Academy is one example of a band who used double reeds a lot too. Oboe English horn and bassoon.
I agree with the above comment we will get a counter reaction to electronization of music.
Sorry if my comments came off as rude strings are used a lot more than I thought.
Too bad not a lot of Western pop music uses Asian instruments other than sitar. I don’t hear much shehnai, erhu, or gamelan in Western popular genres.

[V0RT3X]

I really wouldn't take anything Bones says seriously at this point. He's mostly just a troll as far as im concerned.