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Calisto97 · Post by **Calisto97** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:54 pm

Really love this synth. Patches sound instantly thick and full. Do you guys think this could replace a Access Virus Ti2? Still thinking of getting one in the near future, but don't know for sure

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:59 pm

The questions are....Can an Access Virus Ti2 replace Dune 3 ? Does the Ti2 module give you $2000 worth of sounds over Dune 3 ? Only you can answer those questions.

They're both great synths. Whether you need both or either one is a personal decision. Try to find a Ti2 and give it a good demo. You'll know then if it's worth the expense to you......

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:08 pm

Calisto97 wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:54 pm Do you guys think this could replace a Access Virus Ti2?

I think no. Very different sound (I own and use both). Dune doesn't do formant and grain oscillators which are very important part of Virus, at least for me. Overall Dune sounds much cleaner and somewhat thinner, less characterful. Not saying any of them is better or worse, just different characters.

Calisto97 · Post by **Calisto97** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:12 pm

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I think no. Very different sound (I own and use both). Dune doesn't do formant and grain oscillators which are very important part of Virus, at least for me. Overall Dune sounds much cleaner and somewhat thinner, less characterful. Not saying any of them is better or worse, just different characters.
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Thanks for your reply! Will test one in the future, to see for myself

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:33 pm

Finally tried the demo. Beautiful sound. Almost too powerful!

Two things would make me buy it:
-MPE
-Multi-touch support

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:39 pm

Calisto97 wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:54 pm Really love this synth. Patches sound instantly thick and full. Do you guys think this could replace a Access Virus Ti2? Still thinking of getting one in the near future, but don't know for sure

I rather think that Dune3 is the benchmark and not the outdated Virus TI. The Virus does not have the possibilities that Dune 3 has. The DSP performance is not powerful enough for such high Unison or layering of different sounds.

I had just seen a Cubase project by Steve Helstrip ("The Thrillseekers"). There you find Dune, Omnisphere and so on. He still has a Nord Lead that he uses from time to time and I think he is not an exception...
To 95% it is only plugins and Dune 2/3 is surely one of the synths you must have today.

Calisto97 · Post by **Calisto97** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:51 pm

Some great insights over here. Funny to see that software (seems) to catch up with hardware the past years. Recently bought Legend aswell. Insane how powerful and thick that synth sounds aswell. I use Dune for the leads and Legend for the basslines. I think we can all agree that Synapse is doing great work.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:24 pm

I wouldn't think about a Virus TI in 2020. Even the founder of the Virus Christoph Kemper seems to have no more interest in the Virus and develops amp emulations

We have so much great plugins these days that it's more important to find out what you need for your own musical style and what you don't need. There are a handful of plugins that can be called a "safe bank". The stuff from Synapse or U-He is certainly one of them...

dasen · Post by **dasen** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:05 pm

Sill like the workflow from Dune 1 more:)

Muziksculp · Post by **Muziksculp** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:15 pm

I still love using my Virus Ti2 Desktop, which I use without the Ti features, since it seems to make my DAW unstable when connecting it via USB, I tweak it via the knobs , and buttons on the front panel. I have it connected via MIDI and Audio Cables to my Audio Interface, it sounds wonderful.

I also love DUNE 3, and DUNE 2. imho. the best sounding VST Synth I have used. The Virus and DUNE work and complement each other very well. I won't get rid of the Virus.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:18 pm

4damind wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:39 pm
Calisto97 wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:54 pm Really love this synth. Patches sound instantly thick and full. Do you guys think this could replace a Access Virus Ti2? Still thinking of getting one in the near future, but don't know for sure
I rather think that Dune3 is the benchmark and not the outdated Virus TI. The Virus does not have the possibilities that Dune 3 has. The DSP performance is not powerful enough for such high Unison or layering of different sounds.

I had just seen a Cubase project by Steve Helstrip ("The Thrillseekers"). There you find Dune, Omnisphere and so on. He still has a Nord Lead that he uses from time to time and I think he is not an exception...
To 95% it is only plugins and Dune 2/3 is surely one of the synths you must have today.

To be fair, I think, for most, it will rather be the comfort of working in the box which prevents them from using hardware. It would be a PITA for me too, no matter how much I lust after it.

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:38 pm

dasen wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:05 pm Sill like the workflow from Dune 1 more:)

huh. why is that? dune3 seems such a giant step forward, and the sound is so good. isn't the sound the most important thing? but anyway, wondering what makes dune1 work best for you....

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:53 pm

I agree that Dune 1 was more inviting. The user interface had everything on one page, the sections were neatly separated from each other on a very intuitive GUI, the number of controls was more limited, yet nothing was missing, a third normal envelope, etc.

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 pm

e-crooner wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:53 pm I agree that Dune 1 was more inviting. The user interface had everything on one page, the sections were neatly separated from each other on a very intuitive GUI, the number of controls was more limited, yet nothing was missing, a third normal envelope, etc.

that may be, but i don't find dune3 'difficult' in any way to work with. and seems to me (it's been a long time since i've used dune1) that the sound is still the most important thing, something dune3 (probably) has over dune1...

e-crooner · Post by **e-crooner** » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:48 pm

I don't remember the sound of Dune 1. Would be cool to have Dune 1 with the sound quality of Dune 3

DUNE 3 is now available!!