Creativity and originality are the most important aspects of making music is a myth? (Article Excerpt)

[vurt]

i dont even know what a millennial whoops is
maybe dont listen to things you are probably not going to enjoy?

[Tj Shredder]

I realise what I should have written is "what will the autotune generation despise that their kids play"? Then again, maybe it's Beatles covers rendered using an amplified noseflute?

Noseflutes are one of the most beautiful flutes you could play on. When I discovered them I wondered why people prefer piccolos. Noseflutes sound better (the wooden ones of course) and are smaller... But harder to play I guess, which is good according to ACO, you need more skills to be a master and thus its easier to distinguish yourself from the crowd...

[Gamma-UT]

i dont even know what a millennial whoops is
maybe dont listen to things you are probably not going to enjoy?

And avoid baroque music at all costs. The string lines are littered with them. And don't even start me on Alberti bass.

[foosnark]

"Invention, it must be humbly admitted, does not consist in creating out of void, but out of chaos."

- "The Ecstasy of Influence: A Plagiarism", Jonathan Lethem


There's a scene in one of the William Gibson Sprawl trilogy books where Wintermute is assembling these arty little collage boxes out of junk floating around in the space station it's inhabiting... or at least that's how I remember it. That's the image this quote gives me.

Artists picking out materials from their surroundings, and putting them together in "original" ways -- but the pieces are constrained by what's available, the choices driven by convention and culture and symbolism, and the assembly bound somewhat by the physical/technical necessities of the construction as well as more cultural aspects.

A boy band singing a pop ballad about getting over a bad breakup with a girl, complete with autotune and Millenial Whoop, would have been stoned to death in the 12th century, possibly praised as avant-garde heroes in the early 20th century, probably would have made a killing in the early 90s, and is boring as shit in 2020. I don't know what that has to do with anything, but the thought popped into my head.

maybe dont listen to things you are probably not going to enjoy?

Wise words

I once went to a favorite Thai restaurant and ordered sukiyaki, expecting it to be kind of a sweet broth like the Japanese version. It was bitter and hellaciously spicy and and I had to give up after about three spoonfuls, eyes watering.

The waitress helpfully and correctly told me "Next time you order something you like!"

[Gamma-UT]

...you need more skills to be a master and thus its easier to distinguish yourself from the crowd...

That's where the amplifier comes in...

[vurt]

nobody wants to see you clean a noseflutes "spit valve" on stage

[Tj Shredder]

not sure who said it, might even be me?

a artist doesnt see the world as it is, he imagines worlds as they could be.

I think it might be you.

There are some not dissimilar ones from Pablo (who never got called an asshole): https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes ... lo_Picasso

Thanks for the link, I think he was so much ahead of his time, that he could say these things for our friend ACO:
“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.”
“Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once it grows up.”
“There are painters who transform the sun to a yellow spot, but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence, transform a yellow spot into sun”
“I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do it.”
And especially these:
“Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of creativeness.”
“The chief enemy of creativity is good sense.”

[Tj Shredder]

i dont even know what a millennial whoops is
maybe dont listen to things you are probably not going to enjoy?

And avoid baroque music at all costs. The string lines are littered with them. And don't even start me on Alberti bass.

Yeah, just recently was at a concert someone playing Bibers Passagalia, now I am doomed to learn to play it on my LinnStrument. Its too much fun to stop, but it will take ages to be able to present it, if ever...

[Tj Shredder]

Double...

[excuse me please]

It's not a myth. But obviously one needs the skills first.

[Gamma-UT]

Yeah, just recently was at a concert someone playing Bibers Passagalia, now I am doomed to learn to play it on my LinnStrument. Its too much fun to stop, but it will take ages to be able to present it, if ever...

How are you dealing with the double/triple stops? Doing it two handed or trying to get the shapes into one hand?

[Tj Shredder]

Two handed, there is no way around. Also because a LinnStrument doesn‘t have open strings. And I use the tritone tuning - I am sure it helps even there. Its not a violin in the end...(and not a guitar either)
To get the triple stops in one hand is less of a problem, but to place it into those fast lines would be a challenge...

[Gamma-UT]

Two handed, there is no way around. Also. A LinnStrument doesn‘t have open strings. And I use the tritone tuning - I am sure it helps even there. Its not a violin in the end...(and not a guitar either)

I think the tritone tuning will help with hand position on those fast runs. I find it easier to play with my arms at 90° to the Linnstrument with that one for the most part and IMO it lends itself to scales. You get a lot of reach with the fifths but it feels less intuitive and my fingers tend to get tied in knots because often the next note up is in the wrong direction.

I just noticed the quadruple stop in the sheet music. Ouch. "Violinists hate this guy's one simple trick!"

[Tj Shredder]

Well, this is an example of a composer who played that instrument himself in all its glory. A violin has four strings, not so much of a problem, you just break it up... He was the baroque Paganini who is underrated as composer as well...

[Gamma-UT]

Well, this is an example of a composer who played that instrument himself in all its glory. A violin has four strings, not so much of a problem, you just break it up... He was the baroque Paganini who is underrated as composer as well...

On closer examination it looks as though two of the notes in that big stop are on open strings, so perhaps not quite as scary as it looks.

Also, TIL he was big into alternate tunings. The Robert Fripp of his day. I'm going to spend a bit of time in Classical Archives on this one. Thanks for posting about him.