Genesis Pro

[grdh20]

I've tried the Reaper bridging for 32-bit plugins, which works fine, but the plugin focus/out-of-focus gets wonky and I gave up on the idea altogether as it quickly starts to get annoying. How are you guys planning to use it? A dedicated 32-bit daw/system, or bridging, or something else?

I can't believe this is still a thing now in 2020.

[Atlatnesiti]

I've tried the Reaper bridging for 32-bit plugins, which works fine, but the plugin focus/out-of-focus gets wonky and I gave up on the idea altogether as it quickly starts to get annoying. How are you guys planning to use it? A dedicated 32-bit daw/system, or bridging, or something else?

I can't believe this is still a thing now in 2020.

Yeah, it’s hilarious, extent people are willing to go just to try this thing just cracks me up...
@ Bouroki, I’ve got the simple solution to your problem - why don’t you just buy a second hand PC from eBay for couple of dollars that can run Windows 98? You could also probably get one for free from your local dumpster as well. That kind of PC will definitely run Genesis (coughs) Pro...

[overhishead]

I can't believe people who aren't interested in Genesis Pro keep commenting in the tread. They hate it, they'll never try it, they use a mac, they use crippleware DAWS, yet it would seem they have nothing better to do than be in here lobbing leavings.

In Reaper, the "focus" of windows is up to how you set it up to behave. for one thing there's a pin at the upper right hand corner of the window. You can embed or not embed, dock or not dock. Run as separate process, dedicated process, bridged, risky mode, safe mode, it's up to you. If you don't know what you're doing in Reaper it is easy for things to get wonky. Reaper is fiddly. That's why in the case of Reaper, which probably has more parameters than any software I've ever seen, it helps to RTFM. I've been RTFM about Reaper for 10 years and still don't know it all. It's infinite in it's scope once you add SWS, ReaJS, Python, OSC, etc

[Atlatnesiti]

I can't believe people who aren't interested in Genesis Pro keep commenting in the tread. They hate it, they'll never try it,

Would love to try it, but like so many others, can’t - NO 64-BIT SUPPORT, NO MAC OS SUPPORT.

[Reefius]

they use crippleware DAWS

So a DAW is crippleware because it no longer supports ancient 32 bit technology?

[chk071]

If people wouldn't be interested at all, they wouldn't have clicked on and commented in the thread, at all.

[overhishead]

I can't believe people who aren't interested in Genesis Pro keep commenting in the tread. They hate it, they'll never try it,

Would love to try it, but like so many others, can’t - NO 64-BIT SUPPORT, NO MAC OS SUPPORT.

you don't say? I can't believe Ummet Ozcan would deceive the community that way by blatantly lying about the plugin not supporting 64 bit crippleware DAWs as well as Dapple confusers. If he lied about those things, I don't see why we ought to give this topic any more posts.

[clipnotic]

they use crippleware DAWS

So a DAW is crippleware because it no longer supports ancient 32 bit technology?

Yes it is, because especially a DAW should be best possible backward compatible and there are many very good old 32 bit plugins available! And some DAWs can handle 32 and 64 bit together without many problems, what depends on the plugins self, too, my DAW can do this!

[chk071]

There's a difference between being backwards compatible and supporting obsolete tech. Supporting obsolete tech is redundant, backwards compatibility is often necessary.

Not to talk about the overhead necessary for supporting obsolete tech.

[Bouroki]

Yeah, it’s hilarious, extent people are willing to go just to try this thing just cracks me up...
@ Bouroki, I’ve got the simple solution to your problem - why don’t you just buy a second hand PC from eBay for couple of dollars that can run Windows 98? You could also probably get one for free from your local dumpster as well. That kind of PC will definitely run Genesis (coughs) Pro...

There is no extent at all. With Reaper 64 it's a simple matter of firing up the daw and loading the plugin - any necessary bridging is done automatically

I'm just asking about the minor annoyance this introduces and whether people have a better idea. If you have the money to spare for $299 soft synths then good for you, but I'd rather have a small bridging annoyance than a negative bank balance.

[recursive one]

Maybe it will be released with built-in bridge, as Ummet said on youtube.

If not, i'll try using it with Jbridge (my DAW doesn't have it's own one).

As long at it sounds great (which seems so from the videos) and I can run it in my DAW without major issues (which I hope) I don't care if it's new tech, old tech, obsolete tech etc. My Virus is old and obsolete tech and it's still one of the best soundsing synths I own.

[clipnotic]

There's a difference between being backwards compatible and supporting obsolete tech. Supporting obsolete tech is redundant, backwards compatibility is often necessary.

Not to talk about the overhead necessary for supporting obsolete tech.

For me 32 Bit is not obsolute tech and I don't let me dictate from some overhyped DAW developers what is obsulete and what not. And it's not the developer of Genesis fault if you and others buy a DAW which don't offers 32 Bit anymore, it's your own fault!

[Atlatnesiti]

There's a difference between being backwards compatible and supporting obsolete tech. Supporting obsolete tech is redundant, backwards compatibility is often necessary.

Not to talk about the overhead necessary for supporting obsolete tech.

For me 32 Bit is not obsolute tech and I don't let me dictate from some overhyped DAW developers what is obsulete and what not. And it's not the developer of Genesis fault if you and others buy a DAW which don't offers 32 Bit anymore, it's your own fault!

Ignorance is bliss

[chk071]

There's a difference between being backwards compatible and supporting obsolete tech. Supporting obsolete tech is redundant, backwards compatibility is often necessary.

Not to talk about the overhead necessary for supporting obsolete tech.

For me 32 Bit is not obsolute tech and I don't let me dictate from some overhyped DAW developers what is obsulete and what not. And it's not the developer of Genesis fault if you and others buy a DAW which don't offers 32 Bit anymore, it's your own fault!

Well... to build on that a bit: What if the dev would have coded the plugin with a 16-bit installer? Is it the user's fault then that he doesn't use a 32-bit operating system anymore?

I don't think arguing like that makes much sense. Most have moved on, use a 64-bit DAW and 64-bit plugins, and most use a 64-bit DAW with no built in bridge anymore (Cubase, Ableton, Studio One, Reason).

Imagine a dev would consider the technical details, and target audience of his plugin. Would you say it makes much sense to develop your plugin around the needs of the target audience, by not making it compatible with what most people use?

Again, I understand the reasons for it in this case. What I don't understand is people arguing once again as if we would still be in the year 2000. 32-bit IS obsolete tech. Especially if you're on a Mac computer.

[clipnotic]

well it's simple, if you want work with 16 bit, you have to use an old 16 Bit system and if you want work with 32 Bit, you have to use a 32 Bit compatible system, which is still available today in 2020! And if you don't want work with 32 Bit, this synth here is not for you, so you can buy other synths in 64 Bit!