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Michael L · Post by **Michael L** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:25 am

OSX updates regularly break compatibility with DAW and plugin features.
What DAWs have a very stable Mac version, as both app and host?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:30 am

Logic?

Cubase should be fine as well.

revvy · Post by **revvy** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:34 am

OP which Mac DAW are you struggling with?

I use Logic and Live and don't have any problems in that regard as I only update OS when I - and the apps I use - are ready.

iosys · Post by **iosys** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:39 am

I use Studio One on OS X, had zero issues since purchase, it’s rock solid!

Calenberger · Post by **Calenberger** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:03 am

It’s not a problem of Logic which is quite stable and reliable. It’s a problem of updating OSX too early. I‘m still using Mojave (and will for the time being) and have had no problems during the last years.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:07 am

Bug-free?

Consider Logic, perhaps.

Stability-wise: While I'm no power-user, I've never really had any issues. And I've been with the DAW from Version 7 (on 10.4 Tiger) through all iterations (And all OS', save for El Capitan), until now with LPX 10.4, on Mojave.

It's hard to bet against Logic being OS-compliant, given that Apple can mitigate against many issues by developing the two, concurrently.

Calenberger · Post by **Calenberger** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:09 am

I doubt that the Behringer DAW will be better than Logic
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Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 am

No DAW, as far as I've read, is completely bug free. I use Logic, it has some issues, but no dealbreakers for me. It's also the best value on the market, provided you accept the Apple M.O. I am still on mojave, and I don't expect to go any further on this iMac (late 2015).

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:26 am

Bombadil wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:20 am I am still on mojave, and I don't expect to go any further on this iMac (late 2015).

Wise guy

That's perhaps the most important detail: always avoid the latest OS, and you will be much safer.

I only updated to Mojave when Catalina was released.

oneway · Post by **oneway** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:12 pm

On Mac, for the most part, you really have to avoid upgrading too soon. I have tried REAPER, Ableton Live, and Studio One. All of them "had problems" if you updated to Mojave on day one. Mainly because the 3rd party plugins "had problems" which could usually cause problems downstream for the host.

FMR said he did Mojave when Catalina was released- that actually sounds like a solid pace to me. Which is the nice part about Macs. Their inherent security advantage generally means running a version a few points behind won't leave you critically exposed to viruses etc.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:16 pm

Logic and Reason have been solid for me over 2 MacOS updates on my current MacBook. Ableton Live has had a couple of crashes, but it’s been the same beta plugin each time, so I no longer use it.

*Edit* On Catalina since a week or so after its release

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:35 pm

oneway wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:12 pmFMR said he did Mojave when Catalina was released- that actually sounds like a solid pace to me.

That's how I've always done it i.e update to the outgoing OS when the new is released. Never had any problems.

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:36 pm

Also, perhaps the op might check out how Bitwig is doing with MacOS. I think it's experimental and flexible, sound-design(y) nature might work better for him.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:38 pm

Michael L wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:25 am OSX updates regularly break compatibility with DAW and plugin features.
What DAWs have a very stable Mac version, as both app and host?

One on a system where you dont update OSX?

drdriller · Post by **drdriller** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:42 pm

time to switch to windows

Bug-free Mac DAW?