How will that help? Windows software is not inherently more stable than on a Mac, and OS updates on Windows can break installed software.
Bug-free Mac DAW?
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Logic 9.1.8 on 10.6.8 (maybe even 10.9.5) should be rock solid.
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- KVRAF
- 2514 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
Ive only been using Bitwig for a few weeks, but so far it’s been much more stable than Live 9.7.7.
- KVRAF
- 24447 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
There's no such thing as bug-free. Ever.
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- KVRist
- 214 posts since 19 Jan, 2009 from West Hollywood
Amen.
People might be lucky by not encounter any bugs in their DAW, because they don't use a specific feature or a combination of actions that would cause a (known or un-known) bug. BUt bigs are always there.
Also, often the actual bug is in a Plugin and not the DAW itself and the DAW developers have no chance to fix that.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5386 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Thanks for all your replies, everyone! It's reassuring that most DAWs can be stable under OSX (I've read many contrary stories). I will stay on Mojave for the foreseeable future but even so, OSX point or developer Xcode upgrades can cause incompatibility e.g. with older Core Graphics. Because I use both old & new software, 'bug-free' is thus a shining ideal! I have no DAW preference (each has +/-) so it seems that pest extermination requires Logic and AU, because Apple is less likely to break compatibility with its own software, yesno?
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- KVRAF
- 4774 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
I’ve switched to Reaper recently, it’s a bit weird and a learning curve but it’s not crashed in 3 months of using it, not once. It’s really light on system resources too and feels proper snappy. I used to hate Reaper, now I’m a big fan.
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machinesworking machinesworking https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8505
- KVRAF
- 8071 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Not really. IMO you want a bug free experience? stay one version behind the bleeding edge in terms of OS and DAW. Not true for Bitwig, but the last stable version of Live 9, 8, 7, 6 was always the best thing to do. Don't be a beta tester for the last major bugs, wait 3-9 months for everyone else to catch them and proceed.Michael L wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:00 pm Thanks for all your replies, everyone! It's reassuring that most DAWs can be stable under OSX (I've read many contrary stories). I will stay on Mojave for the foreseeable future but even so, OSX point or developer Xcode upgrades can cause incompatibility e.g. with older Core Graphics. Because I use both old & new software, 'bug-free' is thus a shining ideal! I have no DAW preference (each has +/-) so it seems that pest extermination requires Logic and AU, because Apple is less likely to break compatibility with its own software, yesno?
Switched to Mojave a year after it came out, and have only switched to using VST3 primarily in Bitwig, I find them less stable 9 times out of 10 in Live and DP10 than VST2 versions. In Bitwig at least a crash doesn't down the ship. Plus minor updates all the time like Bitwig does tend to be more stable than upgrades with a ton of new features.
In general barring an errant VSTi that crashes most DAWs, all of the DAWs I own ( I have a few because I was searching for an MPE DAW that I liked), Bitwig, Live, DP10, Logic and Reaper, are stable.
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Every DAW save one that I tried was certainly stable enough to work with save one, Tracktion. That may have changed in the last year or so. I own 10 but haven’t tried it recently.
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Oh wait. You said bug free. None.
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
OP, which Mac DAW is causing you issues?Michael L wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:00 pm Thanks for all your replies, everyone! It's reassuring that most DAWs can be stable under OSX (I've read many contrary stories). I will stay on Mojave for the foreseeable future but even so, OSX point or developer Xcode upgrades can cause incompatibility e.g. with older Core Graphics. Because I use both old & new software, 'bug-free' is thus a shining ideal! I have no DAW preference (each has +/-) so it seems that pest extermination requires Logic and AU, because Apple is less likely to break compatibility with its own software, yesno?
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus
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- KVRist
- 368 posts since 6 Feb, 2017
i've never seen a windows update generally breaking plugins compatibility, i've you already read a official announcement from a plugins company for not updating to any windows version ?
- Banned
- 1376 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from france
On El Capitan
Reaper 6 OK
Live 10 OK
Studio one 4 OK
Logic 10 OK
Waveform 10 crash fest
Reaper 6 OK
Live 10 OK
Studio one 4 OK
Logic 10 OK
Waveform 10 crash fest
- Banned
- 1376 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from france
It think we can make a difference between a DAW with bugs and DAW which crashes to desktop.
You can work with a DAW and a few bugs but not with a DAW which crashes at the middle of a projet !
Most af the time, third party plugins crashes DAW.
You can work with a DAW and a few bugs but not with a DAW which crashes at the middle of a projet !
Most af the time, third party plugins crashes DAW.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5386 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Quite true, but unpredictable.
For example, I opened a simple, recently-updated and Catalina-compatible plugin (iZotope Vocal Doubler) in four hosts under OSX Mojave. It ran fine in one (VST), crashed two (VST and AU), and had a half-blank GUI in one (AU). Every plugin I own will run fine in at least one host, but no host will run them all. Thus I was wondering if there was "One DAW to Rule Them All" or if this erratic OSX compatibility is an endless game of Whack-a-Mole.
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