v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

[sj1]

A comment: I notice in the Melody Editor that sometimes generating a new motive causes the notes in the editor to jump around the screen even though the jump was not necessary to keep the notes displayed. At one point this was happening every time. Then, later, it stopped happening.

I don't know if I somehow "changed modes", or if I'm observing a bug.

[sj1]

Melody Editor: Clicking on the little A, B, C, etc. to generate a new motive or rhythm is fast and easy. I like it!

I notice that I get a new motive every time, but do not get a new rhythm every time.

It seems that the motive regen is set up not to accept an identical output. I'd say the rhythm regen would benefit from being set up the same way, the point being that if the user clicks for a regen, they want something to change!

[sj1]

Futzing around in the Actions area of the Melody Editor, I've crashed the program 3 times already. Something is not stable in this area.

RC Actions Area Crash.jpg

[BluGenes]

A comment: I notice in the Melody Editor that sometimes generating a new motive causes the notes in the editor to jump around the screen even though the jump was not necessary to keep the notes displayed. At one point this was happening every time. Then, later, it stopped happening.

I don't know if I somehow "changed modes", or if I'm observing a bug.

that is the variations.. when you hover over a part, it reverts to the original, then when moved off it shows what the variations are doing.

What you will have to do is mouse hover everything clickable button to get the pop-up help, till it's documented.. something else introduced is the mouse scroll wheel can control the increments fields, like BPM and scale degrees.. nice addition.. (hover and scroll)

yea, this new toy gonna need some love from all of us.. hehe

[sj1]

Hmmm, interesting. Thanks BluGenes!

So do dice and lightning both not only create a new set of notes (motives, rhythms) but randomize a new set of variations as applied or not?

Even after I've seemingly turned off all the variations, I sometimes see the jumping effect.

Also, some variations I don't seem to be able to turn off. (Example: a vertical mirror that won't un-highlight and go back to "neutral".)

Some sort of "all variations off" would be helpful I think. (Is it already there?)

[musicdevelopments]

The notes change because you can edit only the original notes. The notes with variations are displayed but you can't edit these notes, because some of the notes were created by a variation.
So when you move the mouse over a section, the original motive notes are displayed, ready for editing.

[musicdevelopments]

I'd say the rhythm regen would benefit from being set up the same way, the point being that if the user clicks for a regen, they want something to change!

Yes, good point, this is on my to-do list. The user rightfully expect that the rhythm changes but sometimes the same pattern appears. This happens when there are only a few possible patterns for the given note count.

Thanks,
Attila

[sj1]

The notes change because you can edit only the original notes. The notes with variations are displayed but you can't edit these notes, because some of the notes were created by a variation.
So when you move the mouse over a section, the original motive notes are displayed, ready for editing.

Interesting and clever. The longer I spend with it, the more I get used to it!

[sj1]

the mouse scroll wheel can control the increments fields, like BPM and scale degrees.. nice addition.. (hover and scroll)

I like that too!

[sj1]

Some sort of "all variations off" would be helpful I think. (Is it already there?)

Yes, 'Reset Variations' in the right-click popup menu. Except that this doesn't reset the Rest/Hold arrow. Wouldn't Rest/Hold qualify as variations also?

Could we get an explanation of Blue/Green/Red/Greyed-out colors of the Rest/Hold arrows?

[sj1]

So, here is a thing, still hard to pin down for replication, but it just happened.

I'm in the Melody Editor, hearing a piano play the notes (RC internal sounds). It's very loud.

I flip to the Composition tab. The volume goes down, for that same track as well as the whole composition.

I flip back to the Melody Editor. The volume there is now lower.

I never raised any volumes ... So why was the volume high in the Melody Editor to begin with, and why did going to Composition and back lower it?

[sj1]

I would like to have the Composition window and the Melody Editor window open at the same time and play with the ME while the corresponding section of the Composition plays along. Is there currently a sequence of settings/operations I can make/do to achieve that?

[musicdevelopments]

A comment: I notice in the Melody Editor that sometimes generating a new motive causes the notes in the editor to jump around the screen even though the jump was not necessary to keep the notes displayed. At one point this was happening every time. Then, later, it stopped happening.

I would love to fix this. I have not seen this yet. When does it happen?
Thanks,
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

Some sort of "all variations off" would be helpful I think. (Is it already there?)

Yes, 'Reset Variations' in the right-click popup menu. Except that this doesn't reset the Rest/Hold arrow. Wouldn't Rest/Hold qualify as variations also?

Yes, you are right! Reset Variations will reset everything in the next update, including the Rest/Hold options. If you want to remove the variations in the list only, just right click on the first 'list' icon. When it is blue, some variations are enabled.

Could we get an explanation of Blue/Green/Red/Greyed-out colors of the Rest/Hold arrows?

Blue is rest (clear notes), green is 'hold', grey is when it is disabled.
When it turns red, that means rest/hold will temporarily disabled while you are editing the notes.

[musicdevelopments]

I never raised any volumes ... So why was the volume high in the Melody Editor to begin with, and why did going to Composition and back lower it?

I'll check this. Which instrument did you use (soundfont, VSTi, or MIDI out)?