NI have announced they will no longer activate discontinued products

[CrystalWizard]

There is quite a few NI apologists in this thread, that combined with possible illiteracy. It’s no matter if a software is discontinued, it should still work on the systems it was designed for. Simple. There is no reason other than greed for NIs actions. If you are cool with this, fine, many of us are not and the reasons are clearly stated in this thread. It has nothing to do with continued support. It has nothing to do with how large a company NI is. It has nothing to do with users being greedy Not everybody has plenty of expendable cash to buy something (newer and shinier) that they already bought. It’s to do with a piece of software being bricked for no reason except greed on -NIs- part.
As i commented earlier in the thread, if NI will do this in May how long before they decide to brick the stuff i use which is aging but working quite well for my uses?
Lastly, if they are so hungry for sale on update/upgrade than why the hell don’t they upgrade something like absynth?

[v1o]

NI should support activation of discontinued products both forever and indefinitely. Just like Microsoft should continue to support Windows 95 Service Pack2.

[revvy]

Straw man attack!

[ATS]

Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning for this. How much does it really cost to let the activation keep working on these products?

[FigBug]

NI should support activation of discontinued products both forever and indefinitely. Just like Microsoft should continue to support Windows 95 Service Pack2.

You can still install Windows 95 just fine if you have the disks and an old computer, so yeah, NI should be more like Microsoft.

[digitalboytn]

Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning for this. How much does it really cost to let the activation keep working on these products?

I was thinking the same thing...

It would cost a lot less to keep the activations running than the damage it will cause to their brand....

This is a short sighted decision and NI just seem to be shooting themselves in the foot these days...

Massive X was a disaster

[CrystalWizard]

NI should support activation of discontinued products both forever and indefinitely. Just like Microsoft should continue to support Windows 95 Service Pack2.

You can still install Windows 95 just fine if you have the disks and an old computer, so yeah, NI...

Exactly. Quite a simple concept.

[chk071]

Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning for this. How much does it really cost to let the activation keep working on these products?

According to the NI statement, it's not trivial:

At this point the effort required to keep mechanisms for products that have been conceived and implemented more than ten years ago has already impeded our path towards more modern modes of delivery and use. For example, Catalina introduced a new level of complexity and multiplied issues with our activation processes. There was also growing concerns in regards to Service Center maintenance and security which needed to be addressed.

[ATS]

Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning for this. How much does it really cost to let the activation keep working on these products?

According to the NI statement, it's not trivial:

At this point the effort required to keep mechanisms for products that have been conceived and implemented more than ten years ago has already impeded our path towards more modern modes of delivery and use. For example, Catalina introduced a new level of complexity and multiplied issues with our activation processes. There was also growing concerns in regards to Service Center maintenance and security which needed to be addressed.

well then to me it sounds like they had their reasons I guess. It might be more costly than I thought to maintain that. Just glad it doesn't effect me

[Sascha Franck]

According to the NI statement, it's not trivial:

At this point the effort required to keep mechanisms for products that have been conceived and implemented more than ten years ago has already impeded our path towards more modern modes of delivery and use. For example, Catalina introduced a new level of complexity and multiplied issues with our activation processes. There was also growing concerns in regards to Service Center maintenance and security which needed to be addressed.

So, this is like: You poor Windows users, don't blame us, blame Apple!
That's just ridiculous.

[ATS]

According to the NI statement, it's not trivial:

At this point the effort required to keep mechanisms for products that have been conceived and implemented more than ten years ago has already impeded our path towards more modern modes of delivery and use. For example, Catalina introduced a new level of complexity and multiplied issues with our activation processes. There was also growing concerns in regards to Service Center maintenance and security which needed to be addressed.

So, this is like: You poor Windows users, don't blame us, blame Apple!
That's just ridiculous.

apple does cause a shit load of headaches for devs

[fedexnman]

Kinda reminds me of the old Camel Audio Apple buyout , except I think the Camels did right by the old users ...

[Sascha Franck]

apple does cause a shit load of headaches for devs

For users, too - I'm one of them. With serious plans to leave Logic after over 20 years.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

According to the NI statement, it's not trivial:

At this point the effort required to keep mechanisms for products that have been conceived and implemented more than ten years ago has already impeded our path towards more modern modes of delivery and use. For example, Catalina introduced a new level of complexity and multiplied issues with our activation processes. There was also growing concerns in regards to Service Center maintenance and security which needed to be addressed.

So, this is like: You poor Windows users, don't blame us, blame Apple!
That's just ridiculous.

They are looking at the problem and potential solution from the wrong perspective i.e rather than bemoaning the logisitcs involved in bringing their archaic authorisation systems in-line with new OS' (which would indeed be a waste of resources), they should perhaps look to a solution that they can 'bolt' onto the front-end to circumnavigate the old authorisation altogether. An example I have seen suggested would be to use a serial-number generator, similar to those that software cracks use, that would apply only to the current crop of to-be-culled libraries.

[EvilDragon]

Nobody expects lifetime support, but you should be able to install software that you own. And in the case of sample libraries I really dont get it

You can still install them, and after May 31st you'll still be able to install them. They just won't be able to be authorized, so they would either run in demo mode, or not run at all.