Unify by PluginGuru; The next big thing?
- KVRist
- 230 posts since 9 Mar, 2017
Including third-party synth or effect plug-ins with Unify makes us dependent on those third parties. The few we include now are legacy code (hence unlikely to change), and almost all open-source (so I can fix them myself, e.g. if a new operating system update breaks them).C-quence wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:07 am Maybe you can contact Matt Tytel about including his upcoming Vital wavetable synth in Unify?
https://vital.audio/#features
We may make rare exceptions, but in general, any new plug-ins we add to Unify in future will be home-grown.
The nice thing is, Unify users can use any plug-ins they like--new or old, paid or free, open or closed--together with everything that does come bundled with Unify. I'm eager to see and hear Vital when it comes out, AND to hear what Unify users do with it!
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Weren't / aren't you proposing to have "crowd-funded" libraries, where the allowable plug-ins are the factory ones plus one specific third-party plug-in. Then all users with Unify and that plug-in can build presets, submit them to yourselves and the best selected for release.
Or was I just dreaming?
Or was I just dreaming?
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- KVRAF
- 2000 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR
NOT dreaming; that's what I heard, too; it's the Unify-specific update to a long-standing practice of John's, to offer demo samples from an up-coming sample-based release to users who hope to use them to make patches for the release, which if accepted by John, means they'll get the final release for free, which will now include some of their work.DarkStar wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:16 pm Weren't / aren't you proposing to have "crowd-funded" libraries, where the allowable plug-ins are the factory ones plus one specific third-party plug-in. Then all users with Unify and that plug-in can build presets, submit them to yourselves and the best selected for release.
Or was I just dreaming?
So, for Unify, I guess that'll work by John announcing some 3rd-party synth for a library he's working on, and users will have a while to offer submissions to that for sale library, which might earn them that library for free, in the same way.
There's no reason for users not to do the same thing amongst themselves, for, say, a Unify User Library synth-specific collection, no matter where that library might be hosted, or whether it'd be curated or not. But I'd expect the Guru-proposed collections to gather a lot more interest:)
- KVRist
- 230 posts since 9 Mar, 2017
$59 introductory price for Unify ends TONIGHT at Midnight Pacific time.
UPDATE: The $59 price goes until 12:00 AM, March 16, i.e., it continues through the whole of the 15th. My mistake; sorry for any confusion.
UPDATE: The $59 price goes until 12:00 AM, March 16, i.e., it continues through the whole of the 15th. My mistake; sorry for any confusion.
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
Never on sale again, one day later, sales extended.
Sometimes i wish not all developers would do this always. Its such a boring marketing which translate for me in "do not believe any of it".

Sometimes i wish not all developers would do this always. Its such a boring marketing which translate for me in "do not believe any of it".
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- KVRAF
- 9847 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Sorry if this has been asked already, but is this normal?
The preset is Bass Split-Duet 2 Pad.
If I mute either layer 1 or 2 it plays the other layers (and mutes the correct layers), but if I solo layer 1 or 2 it doesn't play that layer that is soloed.
I just installed Unify, so I guess this might be a RTFM moment
but thought I'd ask here.
The preset is Bass Split-Duet 2 Pad.
If I mute either layer 1 or 2 it plays the other layers (and mutes the correct layers), but if I solo layer 1 or 2 it doesn't play that layer that is soloed.
I just installed Unify, so I guess this might be a RTFM moment
- KVRist
- 230 posts since 9 Mar, 2017
This is not "marketing" or some attempt to trick you. We learned that our dealer-distribution partner ILIO had already told their customers that the sale price would carry through to the END of March 15, not the beginning, so we're adjusting our timing to match.Cinebient wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:16 am Never on sale again, one day later, sales extended.
Sometimes i wish not all developers would do this always. Its such a boring marketing which translate for me in "do not believe any of it".
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 9 Mar, 2017
This IS normal behavior, but in this case it's more than a little confusing.Examigan wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:59 pm Sorry if this has been asked already, but is this normal?
The preset is Bass Split-Duet 2 Pad.
If I mute either layer 1 or 2 it plays the other layers (and mutes the correct layers), but if I solo layer 1 or 2 it doesn't play that layer that is soloed.
I just installed Unify, so I guess this might be a RTFM momentbut thought I'd ask here.
What's happening is that, in that patch, the Direct sends for INST layers 1 and 2 are set to zero--their outputs go only to the AUX1 layer--so if you solo them, you hear nothing. You would have to either raise the Direct send knob (marked "D" on the INST layer), or solo the AUX1 layer as well.
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
It was not meant bad really since i think your plug-in is great but i just see so often „act now before its too late“ but then the sale is extended, even several times sometimes. Then the next sale is around the corner.getdunne wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:04 pmThis is not "marketing" or some attempt to trick you. We learned that our dealer-distribution partner ILIO had already told their customers that the sale price would carry through to the END of March 15, not the beginning, so we're adjusting our timing to match.Cinebient wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:16 am Never on sale again, one day later, sales extended.
Sometimes i wish not all developers would do this always. Its such a boring marketing which translate for me in "do not believe any of it".
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So i hope in this case its really an exception or just do not write such things.
Well, i trust you here. Sorry if that sounded a bit harsh
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- KVRAF
- 9847 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Thanks, that makes sense and I appreciate the quick answer.getdunne wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:07 pmThis IS normal behavior, but in this case it's more than a little confusing.Examigan wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:59 pm Sorry if this has been asked already, but is this normal?
The preset is Bass Split-Duet 2 Pad.
If I mute either layer 1 or 2 it plays the other layers (and mutes the correct layers), but if I solo layer 1 or 2 it doesn't play that layer that is soloed.
I just installed Unify, so I guess this might be a RTFM momentbut thought I'd ask here.
What's happening is that, in that patch, the Direct sends for INST layers 1 and 2 are set to zero--their outputs go only to the AUX1 layer--so if you solo them, you hear nothing. You would have to either raise the Direct send knob (marked "D" on the INST layer), or solo the AUX1 layer as well.
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Perhaps you could have another look at this behaviour?getdunne wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:07 pmThis IS normal behavior, but in this case it's more than a little confusing.Examigan wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:59 pm Sorry if this has been asked already, but is this normal?
The preset is Bass Split-Duet 2 Pad.
If I mute either layer 1 or 2 it plays the other layers (and mutes the correct layers), but if I solo layer 1 or 2 it doesn't play that layer that is soloed.
I just installed Unify, so I guess this might be a RTFM momentbut thought I'd ask here.
What's happening is that, in that patch, the Direct sends for INST layers 1 and 2 are set to zero--their outputs go only to the AUX1 layer--so if you solo them, you hear nothing. You would have to either raise the Direct send knob (marked "D" on the INST layer), or solo the AUX1 layer as well.
Maybe Soloing an INST Layer should not Mute the AUX Layers?
Also, I guess that, currently, if I Solo an AUX Layer I will hear nothing (as all the INST layers are effectively Muted). That would change too, so that any INST sent to that AUX would be heard but not any INST direct outputs.
- KVRist
- 230 posts since 9 Mar, 2017
I'll give some thought to the notion of not muting AUX layers.DarkStar wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:43 pm Maybe Soloing an INST Layer should not Mute the AUX Layers?
Also, I guess that, currently, if I Solo an AUX Layer I will hear nothing (as all the INST layers are effectively Muted). That would change too, so that any INST sent to that AUX would be heard but not any INST direct outputs.
Soloing an AUX layer does not mute the instruments feeding it--only their direct outputs. You get to hear the isolated output of the AUX layer, which can be quite useful.
