more people need to try renoise

[antic604]

Damn. I've opened Renoise 1st time today since late 2016 (I think) and God it's still fast & slick as hell. There's something very satisfying and immediate in entering notes tracker-style and - surprisingly - my hands remembered lots of commands & shortcuts just like that

I might actually try to do something in it now...

[anttimaatteri]

well there is classic composers, who know how to write notes n stuff listening to it while they write it down, then there is musicians, who know how to program notes n stuff in renoise or trackers of same sort, partly even in hex-format.

and then we have the lliterates who tryin to drag n drop notes in pianorolls or waveforms, whos iconic representatives they can observe running from left to right while listening to the product, hence the name "producer".

[TheMaestro]

Many people have already tried Renoise or some kind of tracker. Maybe even started out with one.
But then alternatives to create music with better everything came along.

Imho there are no alternatives to trackers , workflow , speed . total integration of the keyboard , effects commands etc...trying to do the same in a standard daw + piano lol is like painting a house through a letterbox .
All the glitch plugins of the world are just a poor substitute for the real power of trackers , a tightly integrated sampler with precise control over samples etc...
I've been using renoise for over 15 years now , and nothing can touch it when it comes to speed and flexibility
Just my 2 cents , aphex, bogdan , venetian snares , squarepusher etc...agree

Each to their own.
For me, trackers are not flexible or speedy, and every other DAW has a sampler integrated.
And my world of music is much more than glitch.

[oneway]

Many people have already tried Renoise or some kind of tracker. Maybe even started out with one.
But then alternatives to create music with better everything came along.

Imho there are no alternatives to trackers , workflow , speed . total integration of the keyboard , effects commands etc...trying to do the same in a standard daw + piano lol is like painting a house through a letterbox .
All the glitch plugins of the world are just a poor substitute for the real power of trackers , a tightly integrated sampler with precise control over samples etc...
I've been using renoise for over 15 years now , and nothing can touch it when it comes to speed and flexibility
Just my 2 cents , aphex, bogdan , venetian snares , squarepusher etc...agree

Each to their own.
For me, trackers are not flexible or speedy, and every other DAW has a sampler integrated.
And my world of music is much more than glitch.

Agreed. If you make music within the confines of trackers, yes it can be very fast, but it’s by nature of the UI very inflexible. It makes certain operations incredibly fast, but other things are torturously slow.

I loved that I could make decent electronic/hip hop music for practically nothing on a terrible laptop when I was a teen but as soon as I wanted to diversify in terms of musical styles and capabilities I saluted Renoise and moved onto more flexible DAWs like Logic/Pro Tools etc.

[gentleclockdivider]

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Each to their own.
For me, trackers are not flexible or speedy, and every other DAW has a sampler integrated.
And my world of music is much more than glitch.
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It's the execution of the effects commands on samples that make a tracker unique .
Have you ever tried one ?

[TheMaestro]

Each to their own.
For me, trackers are not flexible or speedy, and every other DAW has a sampler integrated.
And my world of music is much more than glitch.
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It's the execution of the effects commands on samples that make a tracker unique .
Have you ever tried one ?
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Yes, I have tried and many of them through the years, from Amiga to PC.

[ls1xxx]

You know i have really really tried to wanna like this daw, but I cannot do what I need to do with this program. The reason I'm guessing is because I do live recording with a midi keyboard. I think this daw is designed for entering the notes with the computer keyboard instead.

[Meffy]

Yup. It's a different (may Dog forgive me) paradigm. Suits some people, not others.

[gentleclockdivider]

No problem recording midi from a keyboard , just enable note delay to record unquantised .
Sure , editing afterwards is a bit of a pita since the note columns doesn,t separate pitches like in a piano roll (there are some lua scripts out there that sort of solve the issue but not 100 %)
That to me is the only disadvantage .

[noylis]

I do everything in Renoise,midi recording,vocal recording you name it.The thing with Renoise is when you open it for the first time it looks like a spaceship and has its own learning curve as all new things do but once you get into it you will be amazed how fast you can lay down your ideas and how inspiring it is.Join me in the Renoise forum there are people there who can help you with everything.

[cron]

well there is classic composers, who know how to write notes n stuff listening to it while they write it down, then there is musicians, who know how to program notes n stuff in renoise or trackers of same sort, partly even in hex-format.

and then we have the lliterates who tryin to drag n drop notes in pianorolls or waveforms, whos iconic representatives they can observe running from left to right while listening to the product, hence the name "producer".

I know you're joking and all, but I was never able to 'intuitively' see rhythm in the piano roll like I can in a tracker. I used trackers for the first 5 years or so of making music and it's been 20 years of piano roll since, but I still stumble occasionally and drop things in the wrong place. And we're just talking rhythm here rather than pitch (which is of course a lot nicer in piano roll.) The rhythm alone is the same damn thing rotated 90 degrees! Lord knows what that particular mental block is all about.

[vitocorleone123]

My god that looks terrible. Simplicity gone.

Different doesn't necessarily mean it's harder to use. If you're used to a regular DAW, yeah, there'll be a learning curve.

I had a learning curve moving from trackers in the 90s to Cakewalk, until I found Tracktion.

I also had a learning curve going from Cakewalk to Tracktion.

I'm guessing I'd have a short learning curve going to Renoise... but I'm happy with Tracktion.

[oneway]

John Frusciante used to be in the RHCP. Then he used Renoise. Now the top Google questions for him are "Did he die?" and "Does he still make music?"

Jk love John but his music is very different now, unsurpisingly it got a lot glitchier...

[gentleclockdivider]

John Frusciante used to be in the RHCP. Then he used Renoise. Now the top Google questions for him are "Did he die?" and "Does he still make music?"

Jk love John but his music is very different now, unsurpisingly it got a lot glitchier...

Imho best song @ 20:04

[howtobecalm79]

You know i have really really tried to wanna like this daw, but I cannot do what I need to do with this program. The reason I'm guessing is because I do live recording with a midi keyboard. I think this daw is designed for entering the notes with the computer keyboard instead.

i use a midi keyboard and a hardware synth and its easy to record them
both now i know how too
and even though it doesnt have proper audio tracks u can record in the sampler , edit , then put on a track add effects etc
just
comping isnt easy
i think in coming updates will happen though as far as i know one guy creates this program