Genesis Pro

[recursive one]

Does it sound like every other SynthEdit synth or...?

I don't have much experience with other SE plugins but I think Genesis Pro sounds quite decent. The closest sonic analogy is imo Parawave Rapid. Rapid sounds punchier, bigger and more hi-fi but it's a top priced synth after all, not really fair to compare it to an 1 EUR one.

All in all, I think Genesis sound good enough to be used in actual projects. It's more EDM-ish kind of sound, don't expect high quality analog sounds from it but what it does it does ok, imo.

[Mr_meee]

First opinion and review:

All you read here is based on first hour experience, opinion may change with more contact with synth or more understanding of its problems:

General idea of the synth:

- strait forward architecture, nothing new, nothing ground breaking, but very interesting randomizing implementations that allow you to customize each preset into something completely different quite easily, some of this features would be insanely good in other vsti's and i hope other developers also learn from this.

- The CPU hit on this synth is huge, ok? and i mean HUGE... i have a Dual Xeon E5 2690v2, it has 40 cores and 128gb of ram, my computer will smash by piece in benchmarks 99% of computers on earth and still it gets a 25/30% hit only by loading this plugin in Flstudio, not in reaper, but reaper works diffently, the spikes and crackles everyone is complaining about comes from the CPU usage... its basically too heavy... why? because the developer had amazing ideas very good ideas indeed, but synthedit, its not by any means the way to do it... i just hope some big company like U-He or Native instruments gives this guy a chance to do a Fking genesis pro 2 version but written in proper c++ language... its possível, it wont take 8 or 10 years it just needs proper coding... because the architeture of the synth is very simple...

the only complexity comes from the fact its build in outdated software or graphical programing software and all this features come with tremendous memory and cpu cost... most of the cpu usage is WASTED, because synthedit its not optimal, the same with memory...

The plugin takes more than a Fking omnisphere to load... this speaks for it self... it takes longer the biggest beast in the plugin world to load...

About the sound, crackles and spikes aside, its not that horrible as people are describing... i just imagine, that most people will play this with lost of crackles, because it will naturally cause underruns in their DAW no matter how high the latency buffer is set, because its just too heavy...

its damn good idea for a synth, but its not optimized...

Now about the UI and most of the synth usage... its bizzare that i need to click in selecting fx modules so the fx button list apear in the center... its just ridiculous why there isn't simply a button in the main window saying "fx" and you just click there and they apear? it doesnt make sense...

Again, major problem with this, is not the x86 or x64 format, when something its good, people use it and buy it no matter what, since most daws can perfectly bridge stuff...
Its all about the cpu, hit... its way too much, you cant expect people all to have 3k/4k pc builds to run this, and even so... its damn pain to use this... because it will drain all your computer power into toilet, just by playing 2 or 3 instance, which is insane...

People can still use this like they would use a hardware machine and perhaps render everything and
by the way dont even try to freeze this in reaper, because if reaper closes this plugin for some reason when you get it again, either crashes reaper or the plugins settings are missing...

So there are a lot of problems for this to be an effective product or a plugin that it really matters.

is it a total failure? no... i wouldn't say that actually people should be thanking the developer, because due to this, other developers will take ideas from here, we will see very good stuff comming from the future influenced by this, but its not practical...

I am really sorry that i am not fluent enough in C development, otherwise i would completely offer my self to help this guy making a new synth in a optimized way, because honestly the ideas here are very good and very well defined, but it misses some refining and it would be impossible allways to make a sustainable project like this in synthedit, you cant just do it, synthedit its oriented for small simple plugins that end allways being more heavy than they should, and this is no exception...

What is genesis pro? A truck that wants to compete with formula 1's, but needs a 10000 liter trailer behind it too run at similar speed, such is the lack of optimization.

Cheers and excuse my bad french.

[youaregreat]

Got it working. Cartoony, great and a lot of fun. Lots of little details

[Kian Russell]

Can confirm crackling.
This Synth is sucking way too much juice.

[Touch The Universe]

Is the crackling/high cpu usage limited to the 64 jbridge version?

[recursive one]

Can confirm crackling.

64 bit?

if you have Jbridge try bridging it yourself with these settings

[Kian Russell]

64 bit?

if you have Jbridge try bridging it yourself with these settings

I thought Jbridge was built into the 64 release?

[recursive one]

I thought Jbridge was built into the 64 release?

It was but the settings appear to be not optimal.

I mean take the 32 bit dll and run Jbidge over it.

[SampleScience]

I've been trying to download it for hours since yesterday and haven't been able to get a complete download yet. The download keeps resetting itself for some reason, even when it's close to being complete.

[Kian Russell]

I thought Jbridge was built into the 64 release?

It was but the settings appear to be not optimal.

I mean take the 32 bit dll and run Jbidge over it.

Please don't tell me that I will have to pay a gangster fee to remove crackling

[recursive one]

I've been trying to download it for hours since yesterday and haven't been able to get a complete download yet. The download keeps resetting itself for some reason, even when it's close to being complete.

That's normal It took me about a hour and a half to download it this morning. The download was reset about 5-6 times iirk

[recursive one]

I thought Jbridge was built into the 64 release?

It was but the settings appear to be not optimal.

I mean take the 32 bit dll and run Jbidge over it.

Please don't tell me that I will have to pay a gangster fee to remove crackling

If the Jbridge guy is a gangster then yes, you have to

[chk071]

He's perfectly legal.

[soundof]

To give you my feedback, as I use Cubase Pro, I've been loading it via Unify.
I was getting crackling/stuttering, although CPU usage both within the Cubase meter and Task Manager doesn't show anything abnormal.

What I did then was to select another track instrument (eg Spire loaded in Cubase, not Unify), then switched back to Unify (with only Genesis Pro loaded on it) and no more crackling/stuttering!

I have to say, VST's loaded via Unify seem to load quicker for some reason, so not sure if Unify is somehow stabilising Genesis. If anyone has Unify, try that, see how you get on.

One note about Genesis GUI, changing presets is annoying, those buttons are way too small for me, should be bigger.

[Kian Russell]

If the Jbridge guy is a gangster then yes, you have to

At 15x the price of the Synth it sure feels that way man.
Surely it should have been optimized, that is surely what UmmetOzcan shelled out for?