KVR Audio

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:59 am

Cinebient wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:43 pm New iPads are just announced today...
https://www.apple.com/ipad/
I´m indeed thinking about to replace my "next" macbook pro and buy one of these maxed out. It does almost everything my macbook pro does for music, might be even faster now, is actually even more versatile in terms of input and some other things and also costs much less. Software is mainly more cheap as well.
So i def. will stop buying plug-ins and will think about it for a while.
Desktop/notebook land is getting stuck and boring compared to the immediate fun and jamming on an iPad. It lacks some tools but that is only a matter of time.

The big iPad news is that you can now (as soon as the latest iOS update arrives in a week or whatever) use a mouse/trackpad with a cursor! hehehe... it comes full circle.

I still much prefer actual tactile hardware with physical controls to the touch screen as a control surface.

Also, there are just too many great VST plugins that have no equivalent in iOS land. But the iPad Pro is getting closer.

Faiky · Post by **Faiky** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:39 am

Is there meanwhile a possibility to transfer midi to windows without W-LAN? I would like to use a drum pad to record something with low latency, or to control the DAW. I have a MPC but the keys are too insensitive for me. On the iPad I can type very light and it reacts, that's what I want.
I also haven't found an app that allows me to record MIDI drum patterns with velocity (like Garageband) and export them. Anyone got any advice for me?

perpetual3 · Post by **perpetual3** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:58 pm

Cinebient wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:43 pm New iPads are just announced today...
https://www.apple.com/ipad/
I´m indeed thinking about to replace my "next" macbook pro and buy one of these maxed out. It does almost everything my macbook pro does for music, might be even faster now, is actually even more versatile in terms of input and some other things and also costs much less. Software is mainly more cheap as well.
So i def. will stop buying plug-ins and will think about it for a while.
Desktop/notebook land is getting stuck and boring compared to the immediate fun and jamming on an iPad. It lacks some tools but that is only a matter of time.

I did exactly this yesterday.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:26 pm

iPad is a fun tool and handy device- but MS Surface or other Windows based tablets are also worth considering as you have access to all full PC software- more I/O and expandability (plus you dont need to buy everything from the App store!)

Not sure the software is necessarily cheaper when you consider all the amazing free software we have (mag versions, Xmas gifts- full daws like Sonar) + KVR sales and BF bargains- I would miss those too much

... and UHE stuff, Synapse, UVI, Spectrasnics- Stuff I use daily and cant ever see being on an iPAD.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:29 pm

That’s the point though - other platforms don’t have those apps, so it’s not the same approach.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:41 pm

True- the advantage of the iPAD is that it is NOT a laptop, as soon as it try to say it is a laptop with keyboard and trackpad etc I compare it to a full windows or MAC laptop and see only disadvantages realy.

perpetual3 · Post by **perpetual3** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:46 pm

I think we’ll have to wait until May to evaluate whether Apple’s novel implementation of a track pad lives up to the hype.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:22 pm

perpetual3 · Post by **perpetual3** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:57 pm

Looks very good to me. Apps will have to support that functionality.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:45 pm

perpetual3 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:46 pm I think we’ll have to wait until May to evaluate whether Apple’s novel implementation of a track pad lives up to the hype.

You can also use the existing apple trackpad and other iPads... as soon as the latest iOS version arrives next week.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:59 pm

SLiC wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:41 pm True- the advantage of the iPAD is that it is NOT a laptop, as soon as it try to say it is a laptop with keyboard and trackpad etc I compare it to a full windows or MAC laptop and see only disadvantages realy.

I try to think of it as more of, wait and see where we get in another 4 years.

Right now, none of them are a perfect solution. When I settled on my first iPad Pro (1st gen), I was bouncing back and forth between the Microsoft store and the Apple store on 5th Ave (crossing in front of the Trump tower during the election year so I remember this well) and I had a difficult time because there were so many reason to want to stick with a traditional laptop, or switch to a Surface or to pick up the iPad.

Its a lot like DAWs, for those of us that work in different ones for their various strengths. None of them are perfect and I don't anticipate perfection or a truly "better option" anytime soon. Just personal preferences.

What won me over for the iPad Pro actually had nothing to do with audio, but just use of the Pencil while using Procreate and then editing photos on the iPad. On Surface it would have cost me more money to buy a comparable software program to Procreate and then it didn't have as consistent zooming control.

Later I dropped down from the 12.9 to the 11 inch as the previous model was released, but when I upgrade I'm going back to the 12.9. I don't think I'll jump on the current release though. Just not enough of an upgrade. I'll most likely get the next version though.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:27 pm

SLiC wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:41 pm True- the advantage of the iPAD is that it is NOT a laptop, as soon as it try to say it is a laptop with keyboard and trackpad etc I compare it to a full windows or MAC laptop and see only disadvantages realy.

The iPad Pro with Apple Pencil is top notch for drawing.

I'm glad that Apple is adding the cursor and trackpad ability... its main weakness has been working with text. I think it will effectively replace a laptop for many people.

The iPad Pro also has some advantages over a windows or Mac laptop. For example you got the cameras with ability to shoot stills or 4K video.

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:58 am

I’m curious to see how they’ve improved mouse action. I’ve been using it under accessibility options since iOS13.

In most scenarios I prefer it over touch interaction but it’s not a perfect system (because obviously they stuck it under accessibility options).

I’m hoping they make it easier to pair with the Magic Mouse that came with my imac. I couldn’t get it to pair and went so far as to call support but they wouldn’t help because it wasn’t a supported use of the Magic Mouse and ipad.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:11 am

pdxindy wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:27 pm The iPad Pro with Apple Pencil is top notch for drawing.

Definitely!

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:23 am

Microsoft Surface Book 2 here. It's clearly MS's answer to the MacBook Pro. The display can be detached and used as a double-sized tablet, multi-touch and/or Surface Pen. Using Corel Painter, a superb natural-media painting program, is pure delight — not quite like a Wacom Cintiq display-and-digitizing-tablet, but pretty close (and a lot more portable). Runs any Windows 10-compatible application just dandy. Drawback: expensive! I use mine constantly for work so it's a legitimate business expense on income tax.

But again, the software "ecosystem" is identical to any Windows laptop or desktop, not that of an iOS device. I love my iPad too, even though I tend to carry a nicely miniaturized Logitech keyboard with it to make it almost a mini-laptop.

ipad is where the real is.