Fl Studio user-interface is the worst of any program
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
I see people making very, very good music with it. It comes from another direction but it's perfectly viable once you get used to it. It's scalable, configurable, and friendly. Not my thing, but I honestly I think there are considerably worse around.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
$900?MusicProgrammer wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:42 am $900 or whatever I spent on Fl Studio, completely wasted. It has worthwhile synths and effects, but the user-interface is idiotic. Flashy colors, for stupid kids.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
FL Studio's interface is the worst? 
Nope, not even close.
Nope, not even close.-
- KVRian
- 694 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from location: location
Maybe you should have tried the demo first?MusicProgrammer wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:42 am $900 or whatever I spent on Fl Studio, completely wasted. It has worthwhile synths and effects, but the user-interface is idiotic. Flashy colors, for stupid kids.
eh?
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076 - Banned
- 3878 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
Tbh I don't like FLS enough for it to be my main DAW.. But if I make a beat with BWS and a beat in FLS, the one made in FLS is ALWAYS better and has something more in it. Making a full song is easier (for me) to make in BWS but that pattern editor just.. Damn it's good for making drums.
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
How is it better for drums in particular?
I thought quick draw/slice addressed most of feature requests in that regard?
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- KVRian
- 1405 posts since 17 Oct, 2018
I think they mean the step/pattern editor. It's pretty darn nice to have an 808/909 style pattern sequencer to do drums with.antic604 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:59 amHow is it better for drums in particular?
I thought quick draw/slice addressed most of feature requests in that regard?
Studio One // Bitwig // Logic Pro // Ableton // Reason // FLStudio // MPC // Force // Maschine
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Oh, right. That makes sense.apoclypse wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:01 pmI think they mean the step/pattern editor. It's pretty darn nice to have an 808/909 style pattern sequencer to do drums with.
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original flipper original flipper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=8999
- KVRAF
- 2544 posts since 14 Sep, 2003 from Essex
Hi
'The least usable' - if I understand you, then you are talking about what should be simple stuff like loading a VSTI, creating a midi clip, inputting midi data, dropping an fx in, recording some audio....
IMO this is becoming a problem with the majority of DAW's and this stems from either having started out being overly obtuse in the first place or the constant additions that are thrown in as each new update seeks to entice new customers or up graders.
I don't generally subscribe to the argument that some people state: read the manual, watch the video and learn how to use the thing - appropriate for more advanced features but to load a VSTI and create a midi clip to start knocking up some ideas is just so basic that you might have thought every DAW would facilitate this process as doable within seconds - which isn't the case.
FL is not unique in being somewhat fragmented although most times I go to use it I find the connection between the channel rack, mixer and sequencer clip/playlist unclear.
But, you say you have 4 DAW's - I would probably stick with the 1 or 2 that work for you as I don't see any of the main players simplifying/streamlining or otherwise making them more first time user friendly - in fact at this rate they will become so complex that your need prior training to use them - you know, the Steinberg under graduate diploma in DAW usage!
'The least usable' - if I understand you, then you are talking about what should be simple stuff like loading a VSTI, creating a midi clip, inputting midi data, dropping an fx in, recording some audio....
IMO this is becoming a problem with the majority of DAW's and this stems from either having started out being overly obtuse in the first place or the constant additions that are thrown in as each new update seeks to entice new customers or up graders.
I don't generally subscribe to the argument that some people state: read the manual, watch the video and learn how to use the thing - appropriate for more advanced features but to load a VSTI and create a midi clip to start knocking up some ideas is just so basic that you might have thought every DAW would facilitate this process as doable within seconds - which isn't the case.
FL is not unique in being somewhat fragmented although most times I go to use it I find the connection between the channel rack, mixer and sequencer clip/playlist unclear.
But, you say you have 4 DAW's - I would probably stick with the 1 or 2 that work for you as I don't see any of the main players simplifying/streamlining or otherwise making them more first time user friendly - in fact at this rate they will become so complex that your need prior training to use them - you know, the Steinberg under graduate diploma in DAW usage!
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- KVRAF
- 5071 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
antic604 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:59 amHow is it better for drums in particular?
I thought quick draw/slice addressed most of feature requests in that regard?
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It´s the whole combi... the channel rack in total with it´s damn easy to use sampler combined with either the stepsequencer or PR Editor...apoclypse wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:01 pm I think they mean the step/pattern editor. It's pretty darn nice to have an 808/909 style pattern sequencer to do drums with.
Everything is drag n drop with a very very easy and fast workflow, powerful looping and groove utilities, pan and volume for every channel directly under your fingertips ...
No other DAW has reached (and probably never will) this ease of use but deep features if you want to for simple tasks like this ...
This ease of use just stands in your way if you want to stay organized with growing projects... it got better with Instrument and Audio Tracks but reaches still at max 50% of the workflow of other DAWs ...
This is where many people get fooled and caught in the NFR trap if not demoing enough respectively growing in their production after some time ...
It´s so easy to get something going on (3-4 times faster than every other DAW out there) and so hard to work it out and bring it to a good end...(at least 10 times slower than others...)...
Therefor it´s so popular amongst beatmakers as they nearly never produce more than a simple 8-16 bar loop let alone any intense automation to keep a song interesting over time...
They get this loop going in FLS fast and easy and don´t have to worry about the rest...
But for producers of complete and complex songs it can easily turn into a nightmare... you need a special mind for working with FLS in a complex and crowded way
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076
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- 3878 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
Most of the appeal of that FL's workflow is for folks who use mainly mouse/click to enter note values, for traditional "MPC style" approach with additional controllers and finger drumming, I personally find Bitwig much more faster and attractive, we have Korg padKontrol besides Nektar keyboard (which also have pads) and Nektar DAW integration with Bitwg's Drum Machine in conjunction with that great pop up browser in clip launcher area is really something special for beatmaking.
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- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
I think it *looks* great, actually. The elements are tasteful and well designed aesthetically. That said, I don’t like the workflow whatsoever, and I find it cluttered with menus, tiny buttons, and various other controls and thingies.antic604 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:20 amI don't mind the visual GUI design that much, but the workflow is horrific - I agree.MusicProgrammer wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:08 amThey designed the U.I. for looping drum beats, and actual notes were an afterthought that never made it to first-class. It's my fault for buying when the U.I. was plainly garbage from the start.
I was willing to try to learn it, but ... why bother? I’m glad they ported it to Mac OS, but I am very comfortable with Logic, and FL Studio crashes itself while playing the included demos.
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- KVRAF
- 3506 posts since 12 May, 2011
DaVinci Resolve is the worst interface I've ever come across - a Windows program that ignores every single Windows program convention, presumably because the developers know better. Obscure icons scattered seemingly at random, no tooltips, Backspace key to delete, simple functions nigh on impossible to find without resource to the (actually quite good) manual, &tc, &tc. Most of the learning curve with this program is simply trying to figure out the chaotic and arcane interface.