Filters, what do you prefer

[Dirtgrain]

I would love to have the filters from Diva as VST FX plugin....

Urs once wrote here that it occurred to him that he has great filters that could maybe be more widely used. U-he does sell several filter effects (Filterscape, Uhbik), but I've never heard anyone say they were as good as Diva's filters. Why not?

[gentleclockdivider]

Lot's of reasons
- intellectual maturity ( people are getting better at things )
-The rise of new technology ( zdf implementation around 2008 )
etc...

[dreamstate42]

Still using good old FilterFreak, and I'm also a big fan of Goodhertz Lohi.

[n9research]

Melda ..serious lol

To be fair, MSoundFactory finally has the FilterFast ZDF module in the newest release, which can take audio-rate FM (even those 20KHz LFOs!) at high resonance without setting off any ear-splitting mini-nuclear explosions

At appropriate oversampling (which can now go up to a ridiculous 1024X) the filter does actually sound very good when FM-ing. By no means Cytomic-level (Drop is still far and away the best digital filter in existence), and quite limited in terms of filter parameters (no slope, poles etc) but a step in the right direction.

[chk071]

I would love to have the filters from Diva as VST FX plugin....

Urs once wrote here that it occurred to him that he has great filters that could maybe be more widely used. U-he does sell several filter effects (Filterscape, Uhbik), but I've never heard anyone say they were as good as Diva's filters. Why not?

Old tech vs. new tech. Anything which came after Zebra also has better filters than it.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Wish I'd never sold Volcano 2. Nothing quite like linking filters, grabbing the Wacom and playing them like an instrument

[Urs]

I would love to have the filters from Diva as VST FX plugin....

Urs once wrote here that it occurred to him that he has great filters that could maybe be more widely used. U-he does sell several filter effects (Filterscape, Uhbik), but I've never heard anyone say they were as good as Diva's filters. Why not?

Filterscape and Uhbik predate Diva and Repro.

We're currently updating Uhbik with new tech, and an update to Filterscape this year or next is in discussion, which would also include new tech.

[Ploki]

We're currently updating Uhbik with new tech, and an update to Filterscape this year or next is in discussion, which would also include new tech.

if runciter, probably my favourite and go-to filter gets diva's filters, i'll probably explode

[gentleclockdivider]

Melda ..serious lol

To be fair, MSoundFactory finally has the FilterFast ZDF module in the newest release, which can take audio-rate FM (even those 20KHz LFOs!) at high resonance without setting off any ear-splitting mini-nuclear explosions

Wrong , melda doesn't even have zdf filters , and let me elaborate on that ( I assume you don't know what zdf filters are )
A year ago I demoed I demod MSF and while I was impressed by the overall architecure of the synth , the filters didn't do it for me >
When modulating the filter + high resonance with an lfo into Khz range the filters exploded , I suggested this to the developer to add filter fm .
here's the thread
viewtopic.php?t=525064
His answer was nothing short of astonishing ( in a bad way ) , he said he didn't believe in filter fm in a digital synth because it was not possible and sounds bad (that was a year ago )


HIs words

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Have you actually heard about a software that would allow doing that and sounds good? Because I don't. One of the problems of the digital audio is that it is "extremely fast", so it actually does what you want (while HW doesn't it basically smoothens things out, because the components are just not that "fast"). So here you can also smoothen things out, but that's not what you want is it . You know, with power comes responsibility. Saying "be carefull with the resonance control proves that these filters are not designed for audio rate modulation" is the same like saying "you cannot say be careful when driving a car, because that would mean the cars are not designed to be driven"


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These are the words of the developer from 1 year ago , which basicallymeans he wan't even aware of synths/filters like Diva, talmod , reaktor , xils , drop , synthsquad ( oldie ) ..all capable of decent FilterFM

Filter fm in a digital sofsynth have been around since the early 2000 , while they didn't sound nearly as good as we have now , it was possible ..and now wit the new zdf filters , which have been available in reaktor since 2008 ( vadim zavalishin )
I posted him some links to vadim's filter books etc..
So long story short , melda while doing great stuff is not my first choice for filters since the developer has obviously been living under a rock for almost 2 decades , I applaud his unified framework b
https://www.native-instruments.com/file ... _2.1.0.pdf

Could you point out when MSF got zdf filters in the new release ? ( I would be surprised )
p.s. do you know what zdf stands for ?

[Digivolt]

I would love to have the filters from Diva as VST FX plugin....

Urs once wrote here that it occurred to him that he has great filters that could maybe be more widely used. U-he does sell several filter effects (Filterscape, Uhbik), but I've never heard anyone say they were as good as Diva's filters. Why not?

Filterscape and Uhbik predate Diva and Repro.

We're currently updating Uhbik with new tech, and an update to Filterscape this year or next is in discussion, which would also include new tech.

Any chance of a Divafy and Reprofy like Zebrify ?

[Cinebient]

I like to use Kaleidoscope as filter.

[Urs]

Any chance of a Divafy and Reprofy like Zebrify ?

Audio input for synths was on top of our list at the time Repro-1 was released. At the time it was deprioritised when people made us prioritise polyphony over classic monotone synth features. It'll come back into the focus again.

[n9research]

Could you point out when MSF got zdf filters in the new release ? ( I would be surprised )

14.05 Changelog:

Added FilterFast module implementing a few zero-delay filters, useful mainly for filtering with fast modulation.

p.s. do you know what zdf stands for ?

yes

[teilo]

Melitta...

Pfft. Hario V60 is where it's at. Just don't get the tabbed one.

[c_voltage]

There is some another freeware filter which i liked once, but forgot name, so, AFAIR in his description was mentioned that he "zdf" too (though frankly i have been not able to catch some palpable advantages from this term yet, in any of filter product, but nevertheless). I remember was some "noise" in dev name.