KVR Audio

benjamind · Post by **benjamind** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:24 am

Depending upon one piece of hardware is not optimal.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:26 am

Dasheesh wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:51 pm don't let influencers sell you on being a sheep. if you want to make a whole album in an ipad you can. i have. they are just trying to sell you presets.

So did a few well known artists, like Gorillaz

telecode · Post by **telecode** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:45 am

Dasheesh wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:51 pm don't let influencers sell you on being a sheep. if you want to make a whole album in an ipad you can. i have. they are just trying to sell you presets.

sure you. can you can make a whole album with just an acoustic guitar and a 4 track recorder. all depends what you are making.

i jumped on the ipad backwagon a few years ago and it was interesting, but really never could complete an entire song. the apps are cheap in comparison to desktop music apps and DAWs and they are interesting to play around with, but after a while it just seemed to be more of a idea sketch pad tool than a tool you could completing finish something.

issues you ran into was exporting audio from one app and importing into another. messing around with audio copy and inter-app was annoying. scrolling around and trying to edit and nudge and fix MIDI with a fingers seemed to not work as well as using a controller or keyboard. As I am a Maschine/Jam user, i can insert, move, nudge and transpose MIDI 100x faster on controllers than on a iPad screen app.

I think iPads still need a controller of some sort to make it a replacement tool for a desktop based DAW setup.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:48 am

A lot things changed in the last years on iOS.
F.e. IAA is dead, long live AUv3.

benjamind · Post by **benjamind** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:28 am

No doubt that iPad type setups are the idea of the future. Wireless audio and MIDI would obviously need to be very low latency and as it stands right now that isn't so especially for Bluetooth.

Once wireless latency improves it would make the iPad an ideal setup for making entire songs. Or you could just edit the parts in without relying on external controllers at all.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:07 pm

the biggest issue i'm having is handling midi because there are so many unseen, and hidden midi protocols going on. it was so much easier when i plugged a cord from A to B and assigned a channel. i am plugging my ipad into my pc over usb and using studiomux for now. every app is handling midi in a different way and i'm having a terrible time trying to get drum apps in particular to behave the way i want them to because of all the inter app midi connections happening. i gave up on spark. it had some kind of weird midi feedback loop happening i couldn't figure out.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:10 pm

Cinebient wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:48 am A lot things changed in the last years on iOS.
F.e. IAA is dead, long live AUv3.

I'm glad IAA is not completely dead... otherwise Borderlands would be isolated

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:23 pm

i have a few apps i bought early on that are not au3 and may not ever be. glad they still work.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:30 pm

I quite like some individual apps on iOS... the DAWs however are just not there yet.

macmuse · Post by **macmuse** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:03 pm

pdxindy wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:30 pm I quite like some individual apps on iOS... the DAWs however are just not there yet.

Yeah I wouldn’t want to finish a song in a iOS DAW, but many do. I do only a skeleton and then export to my real DAW where I can really work. I don’t think I’d have patience for more than that.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:30 pm

pdxindy wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:10 pm
Cinebient wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:48 am A lot things changed in the last years on iOS.
F.e. IAA is dead, long live AUv3.
I'm glad IAA is not completely dead... otherwise Borderlands would be isolated

It’s not dead, just deprecated, so could be around for a couple more years, which will give developers the chance to convert to AUv3.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:34 pm

There was a twitter about that x-code seems in iOS 14. So maybe no mac needed anymore for coding iOS apps in the future.

Dasheesh · Post by **Dasheesh** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:53 pm

the aii is still more useful for many apps because the au3 is unplayable in many cases where the whole gui is not available. when doing inter app stuff (needed for using with external DAWS), aii gives you the full screen app when au3 will only give a partial gui. some apps, the sequencer is not available, other apps have not fully thought about how to materialize the partial app well.

MMaarrkk · Post by **MMaarrkk** » Thu May 07, 2020 7:26 pm

It would be nice to see the number of available products for iOS to cross over to android as well, as there are some wonderful mobile DAWs and VSTs that lock themselves to a single ecosystem.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Thu May 07, 2020 7:43 pm

consordini wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 7:26 pm It would be nice to see the number of available products for iOS to cross over to android as well, as there are some wonderful mobile DAWs and VSTs that lock themselves to a single ecosystem.

I think Android devices were too far behind in the way they handle audio and iOS took the majority of that market. it would probably be an uphill struggle now for Android to become a significant audio platform.

ipad is where the real is.