More urgently, how to create/manipulate them, as it were, from scratch.
I’m willing and able to read/watch any resources you might point to. Or indeed, if you happen to know all about this yourself, please do post said information!
Thank you.
That´s what I meant: give us a concrete Example. You´re asking about a whole Universe here.kvotchin wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:09 pm Formants are not “just theory”. No more than a sine wave is that, for example.
I checked out your YouTube, and yeah, none of those sounds remotely like what I was referring to the creation of (i.e., patches that are voice-like whatsoever).
Im not sure if you're saying that the information in the formant chart isn't sufficient to create vowel-like tones using bandpass filters, but if so I assure you from personal experience it is. There are a few key parts of the process beyond just setting the bandwidth cutoff frequencies:And be sure - you can dial in all those Formant Values with what ever Tool you like (we have different Options) - the Result will be more or less far away from what you are heading for. That´s what I meant with "Formants are just Theory".
To be honest: I skipped the Physics Lessons. But my Experience tells me that there are many more relevant Parameters for a Formant/VOX Sound than theoretically dominant Formants
The Table shows the empirical dominant Formants for certain Vowel (!) Sounds - but the Results are far away from a pracical Approach in SD. They represent the physical Theory of Voice-like Sounds and will typically result in a Vowel-Sawtooth.cybilopsin wrote: Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:04 amIm not sure if you're saying that the information in the formant chart isn't sufficient to create vowel-like tones using bandpass filters, but if so I assure you from personal experience it is. There are a few key parts of the process beyond just setting the bandwidth cutoff frequencies:And be sure - you can dial in all those Formant Values with what ever Tool you like (we have different Options) - the Result will be more or less far away from what you are heading for. That´s what I meant with "Formants are just Theory".
To be honest: I skipped the Physics Lessons. But my Experience tells me that there are many more relevant Parameters for a Formant/VOX Sound than theoretically dominant Formants
1. The waveform you start with should have very strong upper harmonics. A saw or even a supersaw is not ideal - its true they have upper harmonics, but their lower harmonics are much louder. A pulse wave (0%/100% pulse width, i.e. an impulse train) is much better because all of the harmonics are equal in intensity. Waveforms that are even further weighted towards the upper harmonics can be created through additive synthesis, but an impulse wave works very well.
2. The chart contains 3 pieces of information for formants: frequency, bandwidth, and amplitude. All 3 need to be used to create a good vowel tone. The formants have to be at the correct volume relative to each other to sound realistic - thats what the dB readings are for. The lowest frequency formant is always the loudest so it is listed as 0 dB. If you're using parallel bandpass filters, that means they have to be mixed at different volumes when summed.
I also want to point out that the formant chart I linked to is most definitely not theoretical, since the values are empirically derived in the first place.
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