Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[AnX]

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[AnX]

as a pure guess (a price has not been mentioned publicly or in beta) I would say it would be in the same ballpark as Legend, poss up to $149. Who knows tho total guess here, i have no idea how much time was put into it, not my business

[chk071]

That would have been my guess too. $129 - $149. Don't think it'll be as inexpensive as Legend. After all, it's a more complex synth, and, if Synapse Audio put in some extras, I'd expect it to be in RePro ballpark.

[e-crooner]

Hello, haven't been here in a month or two. I checked Synapse Audio's site today and it seems their Oberheim emulation is still not available. I hope the developers have not been infected by the virus

[BONES]

That would have been my guess too. $129 - $149. Don't think it'll be as inexpensive as Legend. After all, it's a more complex synth, and, if Synapse Audio put in some extras, I'd expect it to be in RePro ballpark.

It isn't actually more complex. In fact, OB-Xa probably has fewer controls than a Minimoog. It's surprisingly simple, really.

[wagtunes]

That would have been my guess too. $129 - $149. Don't think it'll be as inexpensive as Legend. After all, it's a more complex synth, and, if Synapse Audio put in some extras, I'd expect it to be in RePro ballpark.

It isn't actually more complex. In fact, OB-Xa probably has fewer controls than a Minimoog. It's surprisingly simple, really.

I'm sorry but you are wrong. The OB X-A has 1.57 times more controls (knobs, sliders, switches) than the Minimoog Model D.

In addition to that, the OB X-A is infinitely more complex (actually convoluted is the word) than the Minimoog.

Ultimately, when the OB X-A is released, you will see that it is a lot more expensive than the Legend. In fact, it won't even be close.

[e-crooner]

That would have been my guess too. $129 - $149. Don't think it'll be as inexpensive as Legend. After all, it's a more complex synth, and, if Synapse Audio put in some extras, I'd expect it to be in RePro ballpark.

It isn't actually more complex. In fact, OB-Xa probably has fewer controls than a Minimoog. It's surprisingly simple, really.

I'm sorry but you are wrong. The OB X-A has 1.57 times more controls (knobs, sliders, switches) than the Minimoog Model D.

In addition to that, the OB X-A is infinitely more complex (actually convoluted is the word) than the Minimoog.

Ultimately, when the OB X-A is released, you will see that it is a lot more expensive than the Legend. In fact, it won't even be close.

SA can hardly charge more than, say, $€139 as they have to stay clearly below the price of Dune 3, which is way more complex and complete.

[wagtunes]

That would have been my guess too. $129 - $149. Don't think it'll be as inexpensive as Legend. After all, it's a more complex synth, and, if Synapse Audio put in some extras, I'd expect it to be in RePro ballpark.

It isn't actually more complex. In fact, OB-Xa probably has fewer controls than a Minimoog. It's surprisingly simple, really.

I'm sorry but you are wrong. The OB X-A has 1.57 times more controls (knobs, sliders, switches) than the Minimoog Model D.

In addition to that, the OB X-A is infinitely more complex (actually convoluted is the word) than the Minimoog.

Ultimately, when the OB X-A is released, you will see that it is a lot more expensive than the Legend. In fact, it won't even be close.

SA can hardly charge more than, say, $€139 as they have to stay clearly below the price of Dune 3, which is way more complex and complete.

I guess everything is relative but to me, that is way more expensive.

[wagtunes]

I got the Legend for $99. Dune 2 cost me $149. That's a $50 difference. Even at $139 for the OB, that's still a $40 difference. That's a lot.

[e-crooner]

Well, but we are talking regular prices here. Dune 3 is 179, Legend 99.
So, I think 129 or 139 would be a reasonable price for the Oberheim, depending on how many extras they include, effects most of all.

[wagtunes]

Well, but we are talking regular prices here. Dune 3 is 179, Legend 99.
So, I think 129 or 139 would be a reasonable price for the Oberheim, depending on how many extras they include, effects most of all.

Again, it's all relative. If I'm on a $100 budget for a new VST and the OB goes for $139, I won't be getting it.

[wagtunes]

And regardless of price, my main point still stands. The OB has 1.57 times more controls than the Mini and is infinitely more complex to program because of all those damn switch combinations which I still don't fully understand, while a Mini I can program in my sleep.

[e-crooner]

Didn't you say you would not buy anything anymore?

And you could still get a used license for 100 here on KVR. And I think it would be worth it as there is nothing else quite like it.

[e-crooner]

And regardless of price, my main point still stands. The OB has 1.57 times more controls than the Mini and is infinitely more complex to program because of all those damn switch combinations which I still don't fully understand, while a Mini I can program in my sleep.

I don't think it's that complex at all.
For instance, more than a dozen of those buttons are merely for patch management.
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[BONES]

I'm sorry but you are wrong. The OB X-A has 1.57 times more controls (knobs, sliders, switches) than the Minimoog Model D.

The Minimoog has 27 knobs, the OB-Xa only has 24. Yes, the OB has lots of switches but most of them are for the patch memory and keyboard splits/layers, which have nothing to do with the complexity of the synthesiser itself and are irrelevant to a VSTi emulation.

In addition to that, the OB X-A is infinitely more complex (actually convoluted is the word) than the Minimoog.

No, it isn't. It is extremely straightforward with very limited routing options. It is certainly a lot more annoying, e.g. if you want to detune an oscillator, you have to do it by ear, as opposed to the octave selectors in the MM, but it is ultimately a two osc synth, versus the MM's three oscillators. It's main claim to fame was polyphony, not complexity.

Ultimately, when the OB X-A is released, you will see that it is a lot more expensive than the Legend. In fact, it won't even be close.

You forget that I've been using this thing for the last 5 months, I know EXACTLY how complex it is and EXACTLY how it compares to The Legend. You, OTOH, don't have the first clue. But I can give you a hint - Rich made it by recycling the Legend GUI, so it is exactly the same size, yet less cluttered because there are fewer controls. Of course it's been recoloured to look like an OB and has different looking knobs and switches but size-wise it is the same.

I got the Legend for $99. Dune 2 cost me $149. That's a $50 difference. Even at $139 for the OB, that's still a $40 difference. That's a lot.

Yes, it is, especially for a less complex synth. So why suggest it might cost that much? I have no idea what Rich is planning but I can't see this being worth any more than The Legend in the minds of your average VSTi consumer. They are basically two peas in a pod so I'd be surprised if it was more expensive at all, and really surprised if it was more than $10 more. But, like I said, I don't know and it might have required a lot more work than Legend which Rich might feel needs to be recouped. We'll just have to wait and see. What I can tell you is that I like it more than The Legend and use it more than I ever used The Legend.