Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

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Ingonator wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:14 pmBesids the advantages you already posted above the plugin will have several advanced/additional features not found in a real OB-Xa or the upcoming Behringer clone.
You don't know for sure which goodies Behringer will add to their clone, though (they always do add something), so maybe don't say that.

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EvilDragon wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:29 pm
Ingonator wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:14 pmBesids the advantages you already posted above the plugin will have several advanced/additional features not found in a real OB-Xa or the upcoming Behringer clone.
You don't know for sure which goodies Behringer will add to their clone, though (they always do add something), so maybe don't say that.
The current pictures seem to be from a final version of the UB-Xa, at least a final feature set:
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article: https://www.gearnews.com/behringer-ease ... -xa-photo/

A quote from their Facebook page (posted yesterday):
UB-Xa Update.
We're proud to show you another big milestone in the development of the UB-Xa since we have just assembled what we call the "Tool Made Sample".
The TMS milestone means that the design and all mechanical parts are all tooled and final - in short this is how the unit will look like. As you will notice, lots of changes and improvements have been made since the first prototype - many of which have come from you. Thank you for all your valuable input.
However, we're still quite some time away from delivering the synthesizer as the firmware development is still ongoing. The UB-Xa is a very complex unit and frankly much has slowed down due to the current situation.
Thank you for all your patience - we promise that it'll be worth the wait:-)

Be safe!

Uli

FWIW I am well aware of the feature set of the upcoming plugin as i used most of the available features in my own patches.
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shame they (behringer) can't implement a decent pb/mw instead of those daft paddles

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Behri seems to be at the very least implementing all Page 2 features, for example, as well as split/layer.

Paddles are actually quite interesting in practice. Sure they could implement regular wheels, but you can bet there would be backlash from corksniffers :D

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AnX wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:11 am shame they (behringer) can't implement a decent pb/mw instead of those daft paddles
I love those paddles. Glad they’re in, it’s part of the overall look/design and i already have modwheel on my other synths. Without these paddles, i just don’t need the keyboard and will go for a module. 8)

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EvilDragon wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:59 am Sure they could implement regular wheels, but you can bet there would be backlash from corksniffers :D
Count me in ! :D

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budweiser wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:07 am
AnX wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:11 am shame they (behringer) can't implement a decent pb/mw instead of those daft paddles
I love those paddles. Glad they’re in, it’s part of the overall look/design and i already have modwheel on my other synths. Without these paddles, i just don’t need the keyboard and will go for a module. 8)

im the opposite, and the lack of kybd is what puts me off the other desktop stuff they have done.

each to their own tho, and nothing do do with this thread...

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AnX wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:11 amshame they (behringer) can't implement a decent pb/mw instead of those daft paddles
The paddles add an additional axis for modulation, over a mod-wheel, at least. :)

As for features.. Expect the back panel to be full of patch points - if they follow the pattern of previous releases. They (Behringer) seem to regard it as important that their updated designs can interface well with modular gear.

As a result don't be too surprised if it turns out it'll actually do stuff above and beyond what specific plugins will do..
chk071 wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:55 pm The funny thing is that that Jump sound could really come from synth XY... :D Not really a Oberheim special...
That Rush sound (which I never heard before) sounds much more specific.
Nah, it's as basic as the Jump sound to copy, but leans heavily on variable glide rates, so a synth which doesn't have the feature can't quite copy it. Ironically, this included the more recent hardware OB-6.

Diva can already do it well (as it can the Jump sound). Indeed, so well that if extensive work hasn't been done on other areas (VCA etc) there is unlikely to be any advantage over using Diva for such sounds - other than maybe a marginally easier time dialing it in.

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Behringer can knock out these hardware synths at a faster pace than most software plugin developers. These Behringer synths have both analogue circuits and software based components like FX.
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v1o wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:56 pm Behringer can knock out these hardware synths at a faster pace than most software plugin developers
of course they can, nothing original there, just copying someone else's design

modelling hardware in software is a diff beast altogether....

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AnX wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:09 pm
v1o wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:56 pm Behringer can knock out these hardware synths at a faster pace than most software plugin developers
of course they can, nothing original there, just copying someone else's design

modelling hardware in software is a diff beast altogether....
Work began on the UB-Xa in January of 2018 and the firmware isn't finished, zero completed, fully-operational units so far. Granted, they worked this off the side of their desks and went back to the drawing board in November and made some changes, but this wasn't fast at all. We still may not see it until 2021. So let's be generous and say 3 years for this one.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-pro ... sizer.html

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3 years is quick for a hardware synth from scratch, their biggest problem is getting original spec parts, the rest is pretty much a lego kit

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They aren't getting original spec parts, they are making clones of original chips (they own Cool Audio who does this for them). Cloning chips ain't easy, either, considering how much the IC processes changed over decades, getting things to sound close or spot on to the originals requires a not insignificant amount of R&D and prototyping.

Also, they do write firmwares from scratch. It's far from a Lego kit really.

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Maybe the Behringers are better than the originals :hihi:

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