New: Brainworx bx_console SSL 9000 J

[Ploki]

Why did you assume that was you?

I assumed only by the two posts that were quoting me

in any case, if you thing something i wrote is wrong - feel free to correct me. Else this 10 post banter is just meaningless and i doubt its less tiresome than plugin dissection

[pixel85]

Phil's cascade is Raimund's work. So is HG BlackBox. So is VSM3!

Interesting. HG BlackBox and VSM3 are the only 2 plugs from PA that I really use in every project (I don't have Cascade). I need to look closer at Fuse Audio Labs then because nothing from PA is convincing me to buy from them again (except nice GUI's )

PA's SSL emulations are not doing anything to me. I remember the old YT test which proved to me that it's light years away from the real consoles (although I feel that it wasn't intended by the author) and it sounds like typical digital EQ that we can find in any DAW. I see that GUI can do miracles and it's enough to convince people that it's a godsent plugin (not here but on PA's FB group). I didn't pay attention to the compressor in J but I'm pretty sure that it's also nothing special these days.

[SoftSynthLover99]

Some of you are misleading people here about this plug-in. Not cool.

I’ve worked with it since it came out on several mixes, and it sounds amazing!! Especially the compressor/dynamics section. Not many plug-ins can be pushed beyond normal levels and sound good. This one can.

Michael Brauer did a lengthy interview about the 9000 J and although he is endorsing, I doubt he would mislead people and put his name on a product that is crappy and not worth being apart of. I highly doubt he needs the money considering the projects he has worked on.

Rule of thumb: If you want to know how good a fender guitar is, it’s best not to ask people who hate fender guitars.

I think you get my point.

[Ploki]

Some of you are misleading people here about this plug-in. Not cool.

I’ve worked with it since it came out on several mixes, and it sounds amazing!! Especially the compressor/dynamics section. Not many plug-ins can be pushed beyond normal levels and sound good. This one can.

Michael Brauer did a lengthy interview about the 9000 J and although he is endorsing, I doubt he would mislead people and put his name on a product that is crappy and not worth being apart of. I highly doubt he needs the money considering the projects he has worked on.

Rule of thumb: If you want to know how good a fender guitar is, it’s best not to ask people who hate fender guitars.

I think you get my point.

That's not entirely true nor fair... I don't like PA but i have enough of an objective perspective that i won't slam a plugin just because it comes from a specific vendor. If I thought it's great, i would've written "it's great, but f**k PA".
I don't think it's great, not because it's from PA/bx, but because I simply don't think it's great, nor do i think it's meticulously modelled. I approached it from a technical perspective...
There are some (not only Raimund's) PA plugins that are great and some bx that are downright legendary. I also think Thorn is great, and a lot of Unfiltered Audio's stuff, i think most of elysia's bx plugs are good (and i paired museQ vs actual hardware and it held it's ground fairly well even on highend).
I won't buy either, because it's PA, but I won't say it's garbage just because it's PA, and i won't say they're bad, because they're not.

And on the other hand, if you want to know how good a fender guitar is, don't ask people who play Fenders. Confirmation bias and all that...

[SoftSynthLover99]

Edit: Go try for yourself and come to your own conclusion

Happy Mixing!

[V0RT3X]

Someone didnt have their morning coffee before they sent this out.

[Pluginbug]

Someone didnt have their morning coffee before they sent this out.

I only open the emails that say “CORRECTION! Disregard the first email!”
Just saves time

[4damind]

Is currently on sale for 48 hours ($99 or less if you still have vouchers).
Does anyone generally use such console emulations and replace individual plugins with them?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Is currently on sale for 48 hours ($99 or less if you still have vouchers).
Does anyone generally use such console emulations and replace individual plugins with them?

If you want to work fast and get the SSL sound, then it's worth consideration. I'll use plugins like these if I just want to get the job done and move onto the next thing without getting bogged down in a million options. Or when I want that specific SSL "deep threshold light ratio" thing that sounds great on a lot of material. If you've got a ton of plugins, they sound great, and you have a good workflow, it's otherwise unnecessary. Just my two cents.

[dermage]

for $29 I'd take this, having SSL E and G already, this does not much different.
Having universal plugins like TrackComp, Equilibrium, BigFreq, Arousor, Expurgate, Essence, imho this does things all-in-one easier, but not better. $99 is also too much, since we know PA will lower prices after a year or less, so wait for the next $29 sale and you're good

[4damind]

Yes, it would certainly make sense because of the faster workflow. I have the Neve (Lindell 80) but I don't use it very often.
But it doesn't seem to be very common? Strangely enough, I haven't seen any known names using a channel emulation of a console in a project video (?)

[plexuss]

Is currently on sale for 48 hours ($99 or less if you still have vouchers).
Does anyone generally use such console emulations and replace individual plugins with them?

If a "channel strip" plugin like this has a unique character that I am missing, I will consider adding it to my list of tools. I use them to impart their unique character. Ideally I'd be able to know right away which one to use to get what I am after, but I am still listening and learning. I really like the Acustica Acquas for this. For me they are a source of "tone / colour / vibe" however you want to put it. If I don't hear anything using one it won't be of use to me. Typically I am listening for the over-all sound of the plugin, with no processing but only any distortion it may naturally produce, the sound of the EQ curves and how they might work together, and the sound of the compressor on the envelope and over-all tone change. also how they sound when over-driven because some of these are great when over-driven, like the Lindel preamp. This goes of all "channel strips" not just PA.

[vitkar19]

Hey guys! Can anybody compare SSL 9000 with SSL 4000 G? What is your experience with each of them?

Thank you in advance

[Pingafuego]

Yes, it would certainly make sense because of the faster workflow. I have the Neve (Lindell 80) but I don't use it very often.
But it doesn't seem to be very common? Strangely enough, I haven't seen any known names using a channel emulation of a console in a project video (?)

Sound on Sound Magazine Secrets of Mixing Engineers features lots of top engineers using Waves SSL channels and other plugins:

https://www.soundonsound.com/mixers?f%5 ... ion%3A6972

[Teksonik]

That's the problem with the PA sales. I paid $10 for the bx_console N and I think $20 for the Lindell 80 so even with my voucher I just can't justify spending $75 for this console strip.

I'd be in at $20 maybe so it's just a matter of waiting for the next mega sale.