Are you still using 32-bit plugins on PC?

[wagtunes]

Exactly. People knew that 64bit computing would be the future as early as 2003.

You knew squat in 2003, just like the rest of us.

You may have anticipated it, expected it, maybe even hoped for it, but to say you knew for a fact what was going to happen years later...i mean, please, be serious.

The only problem with this logic is that since the beginning of the industrial age, there has always been advancements. Nothing has stayed static. There are whole industries that went out of business because the technology was no longer needed. To expect that 32 bit would be forever is totally ignoring the history of advancement.

64bit wont be the norm forever but I expect it to be the norm for quite a while yet. Future internet archaeologists will dig up this thread on their 128bit and quantum computers and go "wow, these people were arguing about using 32bit in the 64bit era!"

Yes, there's that too. And if 128 bit comes in my lifetime, I will have to make choices then too, especially since I have so much money invested in what I have now.

[Erisian]

I still use 32 bit. Some of my old fave vsts are 32 bit and as long as they still work, I will still use them. I can't vote though because I am using a 64bit host that will host 32bit instruments.

[Tj Shredder]

You can vote, Markus just wants to know if he still needs to compile 32-bit versions of his plugs...

[thecontrolcentre]

I've been using 64bit exclusively for years now ...

[Erisian]

You can vote, Markus just wants to know if he still needs to compile 32-bit versions of his plugs...

Ah, I had the thread title in mind when I read the options. Thank you - I have now voted.

[Distorted Horizon]

Provide a final, stable 32 bit for your customers and just move on.

+1 for this. Also final stable x64 version of Firebird would be nice I also have a license for it, before it went freeware.

[lotus2035]

Also final stable x64 version of Firebird would be nice I also have a license for it, before it went freeware.

Yes this, and holy shit I had a license for it too, completely forgot. Would love to see a 64 bit version but I know Tone2 said it wasn't possible for some reason. That was waaaay back.

[ENV1]

The only problem with this logic is that since the beginning of the industrial age, there has always been advancements. Nothing has stayed static. [...] To expect that 32 bit would be forever is totally ignoring the history of advancement.

See this is why i rarely say something when this subject comes up. Because there are always people who seem to be going out of their way to completely misunderstand what im actually saying. And then i have to come back and repeat the same stuff over and over again even though i never even said anything about some of the things that are being brought up, and this only because some people prefer to just criticise and in some cases even attack rather than trying to comprehend what i really mean. And this just gets old, not to mention aggravating. So for the last time:

The only thing im saying is that if there isnt anything speaking against it, have both.

Thats all. I have not said i expect 32bit to be around forever, i have not said progress is bad, i have not said anything of the sort, all im saying is if theres no problem then yes, its good to have that choice.

Personally i cant think of a more reasonable attitude toward this subject, and in my opinion, anyone who disagrees with it does so arbitrarily, not because what im saying is unreasonable.

[wagtunes]

The only problem with this logic is that since the beginning of the industrial age, there has always been advancements. Nothing has stayed static. [...] To expect that 32 bit would be forever is totally ignoring the history of advancement.

See this is why i rarely say something when this subject comes up. Because there are always people who seem to be going out of their way to completely misunderstand what im actually saying. And then i have to come back and repeat the same stuff over and over again even though i never even said anything about some of the things that are being brought up, and this only because some people prefer to just criticise and in some cases even attack rather than trying to comprehend what i really mean. And this just gets old, not to mention aggravating. So for the last time:

The only thing im saying is that if there isnt anything speaking against it, have both.

Thats all. I have not said i expect 32bit to be around forever, i have not said progress is bad, i have not said anything of the sort, all im saying is if theres no problem then yes, its good to have that choice.

Personally i cant think of a more reasonable attitude toward this subject, and in my opinion, anyone who disagrees with it does so arbitrarily, not because what im saying is unreasonable.

The keyword you keep using is "if"

Sure, if. I could say that about anything in the world and it thus makes the statement pointless.

"If we could go out right now safely without any fear of getting COVID-19 we should."

Well duh!

Sure, if a dev can easily make 32 and 64 bit programs and it's not additional cost or time for him or the cost and time is offset by the additional income, then yes, he'd be an idiot NOT to have both.

So yeah, I agree with you.

Except I'm sure if you took a poll of all the developers out there, the number that would say "Sure, I can do both" won't be nearly the number who will say "It's just not worth my time."

I'm willing to bet on that.

[ENV1]

Sure, if a dev can easily make 32 and 64 bit programs and it's not additional cost or time for him or the cost and time is offset by the additional income, then yes, he'd be an idiot NOT to have both.

So yeah, I agree with you.

Glad thats settled.

Except I'm sure if you took a poll of all the developers out there, the number that would say "Sure, I can do both" won't be nearly the number who will say "It's just not worth my time."

Not sure how this is relevant.

A poll was posted, a question was asked, answers were given.

Im sure MK will determine if its worth his time or not.

[glokraw]

The best thing about it all is that when 128bit comes around we can have exactly the same discussion again.

Twice as loud?

[glokraw]

My view is that someone who is still running a 32-bit host is not someone who purchases new software. They haven't purchased new software in a very long time; perhaps never.
As a developer, you needn't be concerned with those people, because they are not going to be your customers.

I've used 64 bit Reaper for 32 bit plugins for years in linux.
I own around 70% of what U-he, NI, IK, BlueCat, Cakewalk,
KV331 and discoDSP have on Offer, and use them all,
while enjoying great 32 bit products that have no equal at 64 bit.

Great products get purchased and used, and backed up
to insure future use. Bit numbers mean little or nothing for the vast
majority of musical use cases. I have a dozen presets in
a dozen synths that I would not give up just because bits.
Same with crucial capabilities that I enjoy and rely on
I love 64 bit U-he products, but nothing they make has midi-out
(yet... )

[Debutante]

I still have one Obertone Filterbank. Some people are still using XP. While I am literally just today making my new x64 folder... finally, there's a few plugin s that mean I will always maintain x32 capability. It's up to the dev.

What I would like to keep is VST 2.4 because vst3 seems very unstable so please don't stop making them because they've been outmoded

[chk071]

What I would like to keep is VST 2.4 because vst3 seems very unstable so please don't stop making them because they've been outmoded

That's really not true (anymore). I use VST3 with all the plugins which are available in VST3, and, I don't see any difference in terms of stability. Exceptions like V-Station which has been buggy since forever (regardless of VST2 or VST3) just prove the rule.

[Teksonik]

Although it's an incredibly small sample set the Poll results (at the time of this post) are somewhat surprising.

I think one option is missing. "I can't use 64 bit plugins because my OS is 32 Bit". There may be people using 32 bit hosts on a 64 bit system simply because they have 32 bit plugins they like to use.

So I guess what developers are really looking for are those people who say "I can't purchase your product unless there is a 32 Bit version".

Are there enough of those people to justify the development time and support resources to continue making 32 bit versions? I guess that's up to each developer and the time and resources they have on hand.