The Most Overrated and Underrated VST/AU (Effects And Instruments)

[e-crooner]

There will never be a Sylenth2. The 1 is part of the name. Is there a Chanel No 6 or an 8up?

[chk071]

Well... as the name was derived from Synth1, and there surely could be a Synth2, I think it lends itself to that kind of naming.

[dark_virus]

HARDWARE: "Been using Synth 'x' for 40 years and I love it. They tried to update it in 1996, but it sounds rubbish. Prefer the real thing."

SOFTWARE: "Been using Synth 'y' VSTi for 10 years and I can't stand the eternal 'v. 1.01' in the name. They could update it, even if I don't know exactly what's wrong with it (besides the 'v. 1.01' part)."

[e-crooner]

Well... as the name was derived from Synth1, and there surely could be a Synth2, I think it lends itself to that kind of naming.

Did Lennard say that? I doubt the name was derived from Synth1. I mean, those synths are rather different from each other, there is no connection as far as I can see.
Maybe it was meant like Airforce 1

[chk071]

Well... as the name was derived from Synth1, and there surely could be a Synth2, I think it lends itself to that kind of naming.

Did Lennard say that?

Yes.

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The name is a construction of Synth1 with Len in between, meaning it's LennarDigital's first synth. So you might also want to pronounce it as such

[e-crooner]

Well... as the name was derived from Synth1, and there surely could be a Synth2, I think it lends itself to that kind of naming.

Did Lennard say that?

Yes.

viewtopic.php?p=2269733#p2269733

The name is a construction of Synth1 with Len in between, meaning it's LennarDigital's first synth. So you might also want to pronounce it as such

I don't think that is what he meant there. I don't think he was referring to Synth1 but to his synth 1. I often name files that way, like, pattern 1, pattern 2 etc.

[Passing Bye]

Airwindows stuff is really underrated, on other side some of the companies that have pretty skeuomorphic GUI's are utterly overrated, Slate, Plugin Alliance and co.

[chk071]

I don't think that is what he meant there. I don't think he was referring to Synth1 but to his synth 1. I often name files that way, like, pattern 1, pattern 2 etc.

I guess we'll never know if we don't ask Lennard himself. I'm pretty positive that that is what he said there though.

[original flipper]

Hi

I think a lot of the old Linplug range of synths/drum machine was not as popular as it might have needed to be in order to keep the company going - I don't think this quite aligns with 'underrated' because really, the idea of being either 'overrated' or 'underrated' is hard to gauge - let alone be linked to sales.

If a VST sells bucket loads (or sod all for that matter) perhaps it can be 'hyped up' or 'dissed down' by people - that is a prerequisite for these kind of forums really.

One thing is certain though, any line of VST's that is maintained over an extended period is to be applauded, because the numbers make it very hard to stay afloat with such 'fickle' customers as this scene has...

[Mikelo]

More of a sampler than a synth but I think Magix Independence Pro is seriously underated.
Even though its old it still sounds great. It's Majestic bases are killer as are the ethnic percussion.
Used in every project without fail along with Toontrack.

[Spencer Maddox]

More of a sampler than a synth but I think Magix Independence Pro is seriously underated.
Even though its old it still sounds great. It's Majestic bases are killer as are the ethnic percussion.
Used in every project without fail along with Toontrack.

Magixs stuffs Fun to play with.
I haven’t used it in a while since I switched platforms but they had some interesting little samplers and synths in their programs.

The filters definitely could sound more contemporary. There's been a lot of development in that area since Sylenth1 was released. Not that the filters are bad, it's just that some "VA flagship" synths have more accurately modelled filters now.

Otherwise, you can always ask what was wrong. If we take Dune as a example, there's always been significant changes/improvements with every version. Difficult topic though, I must admit. I'm also not convinced that quality of sound can always be determined by technical progress. The element of character is much too important for that. I'll just say that, as good as Sylenth1 sounds, there's always room for improvement. IMO, filters could be improved, it could have more bottom end, and, the fx definitely could be improved as well.

Well, I am not into that whole analog!!!!!!!!!! mania.

G A S P

Airwindows stuff is really underrated, on other side some of the companies that have pretty skeuomorphic GUI's are utterly overrated, Slate, Plugin Alliance and co.

What do you think is overrated however? Just how they sound? I forget who but I once saw someone on this forum bring up some of those kinds of plugins in that they use pretty GUIS and saturation to make you think a plugin is better then it is. It wasn’t an attack at any specific dev just the large market of plugins of that nature.

[BONES]

Sylenth1 may not be anything special these days, but it was exceptional back in the year it was released, which is 2006. For next 10 years at least it was everyone's goal to match or outperform Sylenth's sound.

I don't agree with that at all. It had all the same problems back then. There was never a time when I thought it was any good. Maybe it was perfectly suited to a specific type of music but it didn't impress me at all.

I agree. It's beyond me though why Lennard never had plans for a Sylenth2 (or did he?).

The name didn't change but it is now v3.067.

Yeah but that's just a joke. What is different between v1 and the current version? Stuff that would be a point upgrade for any other developer. Look at the differences between DUNE 1, 2 and 3 or Hive 1 and 2 - those are worthy of full version increments, what Lennar Digital offers is most definitely not.

Nobody else seems to have a problem with that.

It's not my fault that everyone else is an idiot. It's the only synth I have ever encountered that problem with so if no-one else has noticed, that's on them.

Maybe it is just not weird enough for your weird music

More likely that it just isn't good enough to be useful for more than one specific type of music.

[DJErmac]

Overrated :
careful : it's not a hate list, simply a -overrated- synth one
- Diva (yeah I know, I know... sorry, I'm all for the squashing and modern sound of Hive2... I mean : if I try to make the same sound with Diva and with Hive, I think I'll always keep the Hive version.)
- Sylenth1 (not the best sound around. I'm not saying it's a bad synth either, I'm saying it's not the best synth ever as some say.)
- Massive (sorry but... to me everything that comes out of this synth sounds the same. Sounds very good, but not that capable imo.)
- Serum (same problem... it's very good too, but everything from Serum sounds Serum to me, so imho it's not that absolutely awesome synth I thought it was at first)

Underrated :
- Rapid (can do everything, and with a perfect sound)
- Thorn (not the most capable ever, but that sound!!!...)

[FapFilter]

There will never be a Sylenth2. The 1 is part of the name. Is there a Chanel No 6 or an 8up?

Or a Studio One Version 5?

[dandezebra]

Underrated / Not Talked About As Much As They Should Be:

Phonec, sweet Phonec
Fathom
Aparillo / Factory etc.
TSE X50 - still the heaviest guitar sounds.
Cableguys effects
GlitchMachines
Rapture

Overrated... Not sure. Most of what I use that is "popular" is also very good. Omnisphere, Fab, Falcon, u-he, blah.