KVR Audio

glittle · Post by **glittle** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:19 am

Anyone have experience with the 8dio "CP70 Electric Grand" sample set? Specifically, I'm wondering how playable it is. How are the velocity transitions? Does it speak crisply (no samples with gaps before attack)? Does it respond well over its range? Is it relatively free of glitches and dodgy samples that need to be worked around?

I currently have the UVI EGP set. It's a nicely put-together instrument, but two things are problematic for me. One, the tone, which may work well for many, is a little "airy" and lacks a little of the tonal punch of something like the old Hollow Sun set. This can be mitigated with EQ and perhaps amp sims, but it's still just fundamentally different.

The bigger issue for me though is that there are several notes at some velocities that have a tiny but noticeable delay at the beginning. Unfortunately, some of these notes are at key locations, and I can feel the hitch every time I play them.

So I'm wondering if the 8dio is a reasonable alternative. I'm (apparently) sensitive to playability issues, so the raw sample scrubbing and crafting really needs to be attentive. Which I've heard isn't always 8dio's particular sweet spot.

Thanks for any input. This is the kind of thing that is tough to tell from online audio demos, to say the least.

Obsolete462444 · Post by **Obsolete462444** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:07 am

I have no experience with neither of them, but there is a free CP70 sample set from the Pianobook project. Right now it comes with a Kontakt format mapping, but I also included it in our KVR thread of freely available sample sets that could benefit from a .sfz mapping for the free Sforzando player, so that it becomes accessible to non-Kontakt users.

https://www.pianobook.co.uk/library/davids-cp70/
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=543363

Pianobook also has a few more electric pianos (click the "electric" selector button):
https://www.pianobook.co.uk/library/category/pianos/

DSmolken · Post by **DSmolken** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:47 am

Not samples because it's Pianoteq, but another option, and one that should have great playability (because it's Pianoteq): https://www.modartt.com/cp80

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:42 pm

glittle wrote: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:19 am I currently have the UVI EGP set. It's a nicely put-together instrument, but two things are problematic for me. One, the tone, which may work well for many, is a little "airy" and lacks a little of the tonal punch of something like the old Hollow Sun set. This can be mitigated with EQ and perhaps amp sims, but it's still just fundamentally different.

The bigger issue for me though is that there are several notes at some velocities that have a tiny but noticeable delay at the beginning. Unfortunately, some of these notes are at key locations, and I can feel the hitch every time I play them.

I love the UVI sets (have Acoustic, Electric and Digital). I'm more of a CP30 fan, so never really messed with the CP70/80.

However I would say if there are some samples starting late that it might be an idea to note which ones and send UVI an email. They might fix it, you never know, saving you some money in the process.

glittle · Post by **glittle** » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:00 am

Anyone given the Pianoteq cp80 a serious try? How does it play and respond? Unfortunately, you can't play the cp80 via the demo version of pianoteq last I checked.

glittle · Post by **glittle** » Tue May 05, 2020 10:43 pm

Just wanted to follow up on this. There is a new version of the UVI EGP (update date in "my products" shows as 4/30/2020), and it fixes many/most/all of the late-speaking notes. I haven't exhaustively analyzed the render times, but it plays and feels much better now. Crisp and even.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed May 06, 2020 2:34 am

Nice to see UVI are listening. Did you contact them or did this just happen?

glittle · Post by **glittle** » Wed May 06, 2020 2:43 am

I contacted them and sent a list of the notes and a midi and audio demo. The fix was ready so quickly though that I wondered if they had been working on it already. Who knows! But I enjoyed seeing it and the instrument is notably more satisfying to play now.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed May 06, 2020 6:25 pm

Saved a bit of money too!

Stefpiano · Post by **Stefpiano** » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:08 pm

Try this one :
https://www.keyboardwaves.com/cp-70-yamaha/
– 740 Mo of sample data (Kontakt Version)
– 6 velocity layers for each white note
– Full Sustain Length (up to 30 seconds)
– Line Out Samples
– Microphone Close Perspective Samples
– Release Samples for key off
– Hammers Samples for key off

cp70/cp80/electric grand sample sets