Cheeeeesy Drum machines

[thecontrolcentre]

Casio VL-Tone is the king of cheese ... built in speaker and digital calculator oh yes



rhythm/melody balance control, sequencer and one key play too

[JoeCat]

Yeah, it's not the most efficient way to get those samples

Not sure what you mean? You get all the original rhythms and also one shots. Not sure what else you'd want from a sampled drumbox.

You can download sample libraries for a lot of these older machines, free or cheap (I provided one particular link above) - most of it decent quality. So purchasing a separate instrument for each one, as opposed to loading samples into the sampler / daw-drum-thang of you choice is a bit simpler of a route.

That's not at all to take away from RR's products - I own a bunch and it's quality work in nice Kontakt wrappers. I mean if you want just want to grab the samples, from about 20, 30, 40 or more of the older machines (like Mini Pops) at once, you can find them pretty easily.

[hotmitts]

I wonder if anyone else here shares a love of really cheesy drum machines,

Oh I definitely do!

I've recreated three classic (and very cheesy) drum machines in Tremor. Check it out:
http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Drums.mp3

These are: Roland CR78, Wersimatic WM24 and Maestro Rythm King. Some sounds are closer than others, but hey! It's still very cheesy!

Hey that's perfect ! Love it !! You've inspired me to try - maybe in Drumaxx or Reason's Kong (maybe not the best choices but that's what I got in way of physically modelled drums.

Wonder why FXpansion discontinues stuff the way they do ? Tremor looks good

[Mr Arkadin]

Yeah, it's not the most efficient way to get those samples

Not sure what you mean? You get all the original rhythms and also one shots. Not sure what else you'd want from a sampled drumbox.

You can download sample libraries for a lot of these older machines, free or cheap (I provided one particular link above) - most of it decent quality. So purchasing a separate instrument for each one, as opposed to loading samples into the sampler / daw-drum-thang of you choice is a bit simpler of a route.

That's not at all to take away from RR's products - I own a bunch and it's quality work in nice Kontakt wrappers. I mean if you want just want to grab the samples, from about 20, 30, 40 or more of the older machines (like Mini Pops) at once, you can find them pretty easily.

You get round robins in many libraries - not just one shot samples, so unless those free downloads include multiple hits and you can be arsed to map them then it's not quite the same thing. Even if you just want the one shots it's probably cheaper than the amount of time it takes you to map and save all those instruments, and you get the original rhythms unlesss you're going to try and hunt down MIDI files etc. I like that the GUIs force you to think in terms of the original machines too.

I have to say that a lot of the free ones I tried in the past did not match up to the real thing (e.g. CR-78, which I own a real one) but I was more than happy with the Forgotten Keys library for instance. Certainly things like LM-1 (OK into digital realm I know) were not very good compared to the real thing but Aly James nailed it by using the actual code rather than samples.

Anyway, I digress. That's my take on it for what it's worth (about tuppence ha'penny probably)

[MRT]

+1 for the Forgotten Keys libraries. As a long time rhythm box hater I really like these.

(off topic) Does anyone know about the status of the FK developer? And if we will see all of his originals ported to the newer kontakt versions with the midi drag and drop?

[Mr Arkadin]

(off topic) Does anyone know about the status of the FK developer? And if we will see all of his originals ported to the newer kontakt versions with the midi drag and drop?

Dunno. So far three have been ported and I've bought all the ports even thought I have the originals. He had some illness I believe a while back so maybe this new version of FK is going to be at a slower pace. I think he's OK now though.

[JoeCat]

Yeah, it's not the most efficient way to get those samples

Not sure what you mean? You get all the original rhythms and also one shots. Not sure what else you'd want from a sampled drumbox.

You can download sample libraries for a lot of these older machines, free or cheap (I provided one particular link above) - most of it decent quality. So purchasing a separate instrument for each one, as opposed to loading samples into the sampler / daw-drum-thang of you choice is a bit simpler of a route.

That's not at all to take away from RR's products - I own a bunch and it's quality work in nice Kontakt wrappers. I mean if you want just want to grab the samples, from about 20, 30, 40 or more of the older machines (like Mini Pops) at once, you can find them pretty easily.

You get round robins in many libraries - not just one shot samples, so unless those free downloads include multiple hits and you can be arsed to map them then it's not quite the same thing. Even if you just want the one shots it's probably cheaper than the amount of time it takes you to map and save all those instruments, and you get the original rhythms unlesss you're going to try and hunt down MIDI files etc. I like that the GUIs force you to think in terms of the original machines too.

I have to say that a lot of the free ones I tried in the past did not match up to the real thing (e.g. CR-78, which I own a real one) but I was more than happy with the Forgotten Keys library for instance. Certainly things like LM-1 (OK into digital realm I know) were not very good compared to the real thing but Aly James nailed it by using the actual code rather than samples.

Anyway, I digress. That's my take on it for what it's worth (about tuppence ha'penny probably)

I agree and that's why I own some RR stuff and others. The samples are about quantity over quality.

I usually create my own round-robin affects by randomizing and automating some slight variations in velocity, filter, etc. (it's pretty easy using Drum Racks in Live). Honestly if I had the space and $ I'd love to collect the hardware, though some of the kit would have to come complete with mall organs and such!