Studio One Version 5.0 Predictions and Requests

[rmacattack]

What is AVB?
AVB (Audio Video Bridging) is an extension to the Ethernet standard designed to provide guaranteed quality of service, which simply means that audio samples will reach their destinations on time. AVB allows you to create a single network for audio, video, and other data like control information, using an AVB-compatible switch. This enables you to mix normal network data and audio network data on the same network, making it easier to create both simple and complex networks. Numerous audio companies have adopted it, and more companies are adding it all the time.

Audio-over-Ethernet has become increasingly attractive in Pro Audio applications especially for distribution in large-scale systems, such as those used in sporting venues, concert halls, and education institutions. The problem is that most solutions are proprietary, making these systems too expensive and too complex for most smaller applications. AVB is intended to change that by providing an open source collection of IEEE standards available for use by the pro audio market and its manufacturing community.

AVB networking offers several features that make it ideal for audio applications:

Long, light cable runs. A single lightweight CAT5e or CAT6 cable can be run up to 100 meters (328 feet). This makes it easy to have audio I/O located in different rooms (or even different venues in the same building) and run multichannel audio between them in real time.
Low, predictable latency. AVB provides latency of no longer than 2 ms sending an audio stream point-to-point over up to seven “hops” (trips through switches or other devices) on a 100 Mbps network. With higher speed networks, many AVB devices support lower latencies and additional hops. Please note that while PreSonus AVB products operate at faster Gigabit network speeds, they are currently fixed to 2 ms of latency.
Scalable, with high channel counts. AVB’s bandwidth is sufficient to carry hundreds of real-time channels using a single Ethernet cable. This offers the future possibility of expanding your system with additional devices that contain different kinds of audio I/O, multiple controllers, and other useful functions.
Guaranteed bandwidth. AVB networks intelligently manage the data traffic giving priority to AVB data. This means standard network traffic, such as Internet streaming, won’t prevent your audio from being delivered reliably and on time.

Integrated clock signal. In a digital audio system with multiple devices, having a master clock is critical to maintaining audio fidelity. The AVB specification defines such a clock to be accurately distributed to all devices in the system.

AVB networks behave very much like an analog audio system. Like an analog audio system, audio networks consist of sources, destinations, and intermediate processing along the way.

https://www.presonus.com/learn/technica ... Networking

I'm going to guess that Studio One Version 5.0 is going to bring a lot more Video Editing features.

Presonus was getting hammered via the facebook group in regards to this. The answers were against them doing this.

[rmacattack]

So they have a sale that ends in May for Studio One. So I don't know if anything get's announced. Hopefully it's a good release because you UAD with Luna, and NI with Maschine sequencer updates coming. I'm already seeing pro engineers who use Studio One use UAD luna in videos for projects. UAD will be building it's own hardware ecosystem in the future like Presonus. For Native Instruments Maschine with arranger enhancements will be taking a lot of business away from companies who target producers/songwriters mainly. Nothing beats NI's ecosystem for the songwriting process. Can't forget FL Studio/Ableton for the younger generation of music creators.

[SeeingInMidi]

What is AVB?
AVB (Audio Video Bridging) is an extension to the Ethernet standard designed to provide guaranteed quality of service, which simply means that audio samples will reach their destinations on time. AVB allows you to create a single network for audio, video, and other data like control information, using an AVB-compatible switch. This enables you to mix normal network data and audio network data on the same network, making it easier to create both simple and complex networks. Numerous audio companies have adopted it, and more companies are adding it all the time.

Audio-over-Ethernet has become increasingly attractive in Pro Audio applications especially for distribution in large-scale systems, such as those used in sporting venues, concert halls, and education institutions. The problem is that most solutions are proprietary, making these systems too expensive and too complex for most smaller applications. AVB is intended to change that by providing an open source collection of IEEE standards available for use by the pro audio market and its manufacturing community.

AVB networking offers several features that make it ideal for audio applications:

Long, light cable runs. A single lightweight CAT5e or CAT6 cable can be run up to 100 meters (328 feet). This makes it easy to have audio I/O located in different rooms (or even different venues in the same building) and run multichannel audio between them in real time.
Low, predictable latency. AVB provides latency of no longer than 2 ms sending an audio stream point-to-point over up to seven “hops” (trips through switches or other devices) on a 100 Mbps network. With higher speed networks, many AVB devices support lower latencies and additional hops. Please note that while PreSonus AVB products operate at faster Gigabit network speeds, they are currently fixed to 2 ms of latency.
Scalable, with high channel counts. AVB’s bandwidth is sufficient to carry hundreds of real-time channels using a single Ethernet cable. This offers the future possibility of expanding your system with additional devices that contain different kinds of audio I/O, multiple controllers, and other useful functions.
Guaranteed bandwidth. AVB networks intelligently manage the data traffic giving priority to AVB data. This means standard network traffic, such as Internet streaming, won’t prevent your audio from being delivered reliably and on time.

Integrated clock signal. In a digital audio system with multiple devices, having a master clock is critical to maintaining audio fidelity. The AVB specification defines such a clock to be accurately distributed to all devices in the system.

AVB networks behave very much like an analog audio system. Like an analog audio system, audio networks consist of sources, destinations, and intermediate processing along the way.

https://www.presonus.com/learn/technica ... Networking

I'm going to guess that Studio One Version 5.0 is going to bring a lot more Video Editing features.

Presonus was getting hammered via the facebook group in regards to this. The answers were against them doing this.

Presonus has been working on video editing features for a long time, since version 3.5 or earlier. I guess v.5 will be the update that will include these features. I don't see them scrapping years of work.

[Aliens]

I suspect it's far too late this update cycle, and probably not ever, but as a heavy vocoder user, I'd very much like to see one incorporated sometime.
The mixcraft unit introduced in it's last update would be perfect. The way it uses vstis as carriers is simplicity itself.

[fairlyclose]

Apologies if already mentioned, but I for one still want to be able to use and external editor, and maybe support RX Connect.

very much so - no need for Rx Connect for me though, just use whatever technique other devs use to seamlessly use RX as an external editor. RX Connect was always a bit buggy for me. Not having RX means a lot of my work with audio will have to stay in Reaper eg how can anyone make a podcast in Studio One and clean the vocals without RX?

[jamcat]

Presonus could up their panning game.

I'm just going to quote myself from another thread:

I think Studio One's meters only do post-fader, pre-panner, currently. Post-panner metering has been requested by users, so hopefully we'll see that at some point. I also like Cubase's 3 different panning options: Stereo Dual, Combined, and the standard Balance.


I am hoping PreSonus adds something like that as well, though it is currently possible to accomplish with plugins or aux sends.

[Kongru]

don't move into someone else's house and then start demanding they redecorate to look like the one you left.

Well said

[antic604]

don't move into someone else's house and then start demanding they redecorate to look like the one you left.

Well said

Is it? I'm paying for the house...

[jamcat]

Hmmmm. Not sure if you're serious or you're just throwing my words back at me because I just praised a Cubase feature...

[jamcat]

don't move into someone else's house and then start demanding they redecorate to look like the one you left.

Well said

Is it? I'm paying for the house...

Might I point out though, you're really only renting, and you have thousands and thousands of housemates who really do not like your taste in gaudy wallpaper and "tasteful nudes."

[antic604]

don't move into someone else's house and then start demanding they redecorate to look like the one you left.

Well said

Is it? I'm paying for the house...

Might I point out though, you're really only renting, and you have thousands and thousands of housemates who really do not like your taste in gaudy wallpaper and "tasteful nudes."

So are you. And perhaps you come around to like what I propose if you try it?

Also, I don't use MPE, the new micro-pitch stuff or Grid (in full project, at least) in Bitwig and they never got in my way. Similarly I'm not using comping or project view in S1 and their existence never bothered me. Just stay in your flat and don't bother other neighbours

[EnGee]

Well, I just bought ATOM I hope I will receive it in a few days. So, I don't know how my workflow will be! I read SOS review and was motivated to buy it.
I liked also Impact XT. It has really nice kits. Combine these with the patterns or drums editor and a good controller and it might all I need for drums. Especially I appreciate the simplicity as I don't want a complex controller but at the same time I'm optimistic about enhancing its functionality with the patterns in the future

[hlecram]

Most has been said already but here is my list to emphasize on some points (list resembles some kind of order):

- retrospective recording

- hiding menus for screen space (Ie. transport bar)

- Cubase-like panning options

- better time stretching (quality enhancements + tape style mode)

- mix fx advancements (cool concept, works quite good but seems forgotten)

- clip looping (preferably like in logic)

It baffles me that such a basic thing like retrospective recording is still abscent from studio one. I’m sure when presonus will find a way to implement it, it will be integrated the presonus way, which - admittedly - is one of their biggest strengths. In the meantime, at least the most basic form of retrospective recording would be a blessing!
Also my small monkey brain is not able to comprehend the fact, that the transport bar is not hidable. Screen space is a producers most valuable good (almost) these days, so please let me handle it!
I would like to see what mix/console fx are able to achieve when more devs would take their hands on it. Back then when it was announced, I found it exciting and i had a feeling that more devs than softube had something in the works, but years later nothing came to fruition. I want to see this engine really flex it’s muscles! Just imagine some mixfx engine from uhe/Arturia/TAL...

[fairlyclose]

only just started using Studio One but if it does not have one already some sort of brush selection tool for midi would be nice - something that allows one to select notes as phrases rather than elements within a rectangle. FL has this I think - more or less select notes under cursor so that one can follow a musical line and pick it out easily

[antic604]

only just started using Studio One but if it does not have one already some sort of brush selection tool for midi would be nice - something that allows one to select notes as phrases rather than elements within a rectangle. FL has this I think - more or less select notes under cursor so that one can follow a musical line and pick it out easily

You can make rectangular selection and move or copy it.