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kinwie wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 8:02 pm Free DrumGizmo MuldjordKit v1.0 for sforzando/ARIA Player.
Flac samples, 345 MB (originally wav, 1.5 GB)
Rock/metal sounding drumkit.

https://github.com/sfzinstruments/DrumG ... rdKit.v1.0
Very nice, thank you. This will come in handy.
Take care :wink:

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kinwie wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:50 amIt just a multi-track drumkit, right? Just routing them to audio tracks in DAW just like usual recorded acoustic drums. Is that what you mean in production workflow?
I meant using the DrumGizmo samples before you created the SFZ mappings.

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kinwie wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:39 am
timbit2006 wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 9:35 am Cinematic Monster Staccatos. I was going to map it myself until I ended up just getting Kontakt.
Title seems interesting, but this one looks like no more available?
If you look hard enough on google someone's uploaded it to dropbox. I don't think it's that hard to find

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timbit2006 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:10 pm
kinwie wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:39 am
timbit2006 wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 9:35 am Cinematic Monster Staccatos. I was going to map it myself until I ended up just getting Kontakt.
Title seems interesting, but this one looks like no more available?
If you look hard enough on google someone's uploaded it to dropbox. I don't think it's that hard to find
I think It's not such a good idea to host mappings and then having to link to some samples that "someone has uploaded" to his Dropbox.

Ideally, we can link to the original homepage / source where the samples are freely available from the original author (or if the site is down, at least a archived link via Wayback Machine).

Of course, you can still exchange mappings for samples from unclear sources privately (for private use only), but rather not publicly.

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I found a nice set of jazz drums that would be a good addition to the Gregjazz Jazz Funk Kit. It's called Straight Ahead Free Jazz Drums:
https://www.straightaheadsamples.com/co ... jazz-drums

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Kazi7 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:27 pm I think It's not such a good idea to host mappings and then having to link to some samples that "someone has uploaded" to his Dropbox.

Ideally, we can link to the original homepage / source where the samples are freely available from the original author (or if the site is down, at least a archived link via Wayback Machine).

Of course, you can still exchange mappings for samples from unclear sources privately (for private use only), but rather not publicly.
Yeah, i agree

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Kazi7 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:30 pm I found a nice set of jazz drums that would be a good addition to the Gregjazz Jazz Funk Kit. It's called Straight Ahead Free Jazz Drums:
https://www.straightaheadsamples.com/co ... jazz-drums
Will check it out!

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Free SamSonor drumkit :
https://github.com/sfzinstruments/SamsSonor
Small and nice sounding kit, just around 73 MB, aif samples

@Kazi7
This is has been posted with the samples at git since its license is CC Share and share alike

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Kazi7 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:27 pm
timbit2006 wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:10 pm
kinwie wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 8:39 am
timbit2006 wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 9:35 am Cinematic Monster Staccatos. I was going to map it myself until I ended up just getting Kontakt.
Title seems interesting, but this one looks like no more available?
If you look hard enough on google someone's uploaded it to dropbox. I don't think it's that hard to find
I think It's not such a good idea to host mappings and then having to link to some samples that "someone has uploaded" to his Dropbox.

Ideally, we can link to the original homepage / source where the samples are freely available from the original author (or if the site is down, at least a archived link via Wayback Machine).

Of course, you can still exchange mappings for samples from unclear sources privately (for private use only), but rather not publicly.
Hmm that's true for sure.
They did release it for free publicly for quite a while and it didn't require authentication through their servers to install like the full cinematic strings either so maybe it's in a bit of a grey area but probably not worth the risk.
If you're good at mapping quickly it could be worth the time to do it for personal reasons. But then again I'd say it's just more worth it to just get Kontakt rather than wasting any time at all.

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kinwie wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 1:48 pm Free SamSonor drumkit :
https://github.com/sfzinstruments/SamsSonor
Small and nice sounding kit, just around 73 MB, aif samples

@Kazi7
This is has been posted with the samples at git since its license is CC Share and share alike
Perfect!

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The Free Salamander Grand Piano also posted at git :
https://github.com/sfzinstruments/SalamanderGrandPiano
Converted to Flac samples, 745 MB (originally 24/48 wav, 1.9 GB)

Combined the Natural and Retuned version into 1 single sfz, selectable using keyswitch.

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I just remember, there is a Yamaha CP1 in my friend's studio (where the cabasa was recorded). What's your opinion, is this good enough to get sampled? If yes, any advise for the sampling method?
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Assuming the CP1 is digital, the samples might be copyrighted and redistribution of the samples legally would require Yamaha's permission. So check that first.

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DSmolken wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:20 am Assuming the CP1 is digital, the samples might be copyrighted and redistribution of the samples legally would require Yamaha's permission. So check that first.
Ahh, thanks for the reminder!
I guess I'll just forget this for less trouble.
Let's just record acoustic instruments for SFZ

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The CP1 is from 2009, but it's still carried carried by Sweetwater for $5K. I have a CP4 (a 2013 piano which is half the price and no longer Yamaha's flagship in that category, which is now the CP-88) and the CP4 is a really fine stage piano. The CP1 might be worth sampling for yourself.

Regarding distribution, here's what Yamaha says:
"The CP1's Spectrum Component Modeling system achieves its ultra-realistic tone generation by replicating the instrument's physical components such as the hardness of the hammers and the resonance of its sound board. Using granular data, it translates every nuance of the player's touch into an expressive tone.
If that's true, then copyrights don't apply. Copyrights don't apply to the output of models. Copyrights DO apply to samples. For example, Yamaha can't claim copyright to the sound of a real acoustic piano. Nor can they claim it for an analog piano. Well, in the law, there's no difference due to technology per se (hardware vs. analog vs. digital.) But samples are definitely covered. So it's a question of whether we can believe their marketing claims (or whether they weasel out by saying sure we do modeling, but it's REALLY playing samples and the "modeling" part is just how we filter the samples. Which I suspect is actually the case.)

For another example, in the sticky about copyrights, Meffy quotes Korg as saying,
No one is allowed to sample the Factory preloaded or after-market sold sounds of our product. If a user creates a truly original sound using the synthesis engine they are free to use it as they choose, but our supplied sounds are our copy written works of art and not allowed to be sampled/resold/etc.
Well, Korg can say that but it's just not true. (It's also not said correctly because the term is "copyrighted," so clearly that wasn't written by anyone who really knows copyright law.) It's true for recordings. It's also true for parameter settings: they could claim copyright status for their preset files. But that wouldn't cover the output of the device, any more than they could copyright the sound of some real piano they made.

On the other hand, just because they don't have a case doesn't mean they won't rattle their legal sabres, and I don't blame any site for wanting to stay on the safe side. I also respect any site (like this one) that chooses to respect manufacturers' wishes even when the manufacturer doesn't have valid legal claims.

Finally, though a bit beside the point, samples captured from a modeling keyboard (like my CP4) can sound great, but they really don't capture the experience of playing the actual instrument. So, they're really not faithful copies. Sample sets carefully made from a sample player can be pretty much indistinguishable from the original. But even meticulous sample sets from modeled keyboards don't -- and that's just the point of modeling.
Last edited by JeffLearman on Fri May 15, 2020 12:48 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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