KVR Audio

JeffLearman · Post by **JeffLearman** » Fri May 15, 2020 12:29 pm

Just to pick a nit, and amplify what I said above:

DSmolken wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 7:20 am Assuming the CP1 is digital, the samples might be copyrighted and redistribution of the samples legally would require Yamaha's permission. So check that first.

Whether it's digital or not doesn't matter. What matters is whether it's based on recordings, which can be copyrighted. Copyrights would apply equally to Mellotron and a sample-based digital piano.

That said, there are anti-piracy provisions in DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) that are directed at digital media, and apply to attempts to bypass copyright protection mechanisms. (That's also a crime, and not just a civil infraction like violating a copyright.) Whether that could apply to sampling, I don't know. But still it applies only to recordings, not the outputs of algorithms.

IANAL but I do follow the subject, and have discussed it with my father who is an intellectual properties attorney (now retired.)

JeffLearman · Post by **JeffLearman** » Fri May 15, 2020 12:31 pm

oops wrong button

DSmolken · Post by **DSmolken** » Fri May 15, 2020 4:55 pm

Yeah, this stuff gets more complicated than I want to think about. Sampling and editing samples is enough work already.

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sat May 16, 2020 6:21 am

JeffLearman wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 12:24 pm The CP1 is from 2009, but it's still carried carried by Sweetwater for $5K. I have a CP4 (a 2013 piano which is half the price and no longer Yamaha's flagship in that category, which is now the CP-88) and the CP4 is a really fine stage piano. The CP1 might be worth sampling for yourself.

As I am no piano/keyboard player, what I would do is just selecting the preset then record the notes. Then, that i think would be more unsafe for me as it seems just like sampling the factory sounds. For the moment I have to forget this and better record acoustic instruments instead if I want to start a new sampling project.
But thanks for detailed info Jeff

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sat May 16, 2020 7:13 am

I got reply from John @CinematicStudioSeries about the Monster Staccato samples.

It seems it won't be on the surface anymore

Obsolete462444 · Post by **Obsolete462444** » Sat May 16, 2020 10:48 am

I tidied up the initial post slightly, so that it's immediately apparent which sample sets have been mapped so far and also which ones could still be mapped in the future - just as a reference in case others want to join and create mappings too.

A few of the mappings are not up on GitHub yet, so please keep the Dropboxes alive

kinwie wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 7:13 am I got reply from John @CinematicStudioSeries about the Monster Staccato samples.

It seems it won't be on the surface anymore

I wonder whether something like the Monster Staccato samples could be achieved by cleverly layering different freely available samples (I guess essentially a patch that has multiple layers of viola, violin, cello and double-bass staccatos).

S. Christian Collins did something similar with the SFZ patch he designed named "SCC Expressive Strings" (not so much a "cinematic" string patch, but rather a traditional orchestral tone):

http://schristiancollins.com/vi-orchestra.php

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:06 pm

Kazi7 wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 10:48 am I tidied up the initial post slightly, so that it's immediately apparent which sample sets have been mapped so far and also which ones could still be mapped in the future - just as a reference in case others want to join and create mappings too.

Nice job! Yes, more helping hands would be really great.

Kazi7 wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 10:48 am A few of the mappings are not up on GitHub yet, so please keep the Dropboxes alive

Sure!

Kazi7 wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 10:48 am I wonder whether something like the Monster Staccato samples could be achieved by cleverly layering different freely available samples (I guess essentially a patch that has multiple layers of viola, violin, cello and double-bass staccatos).

S. Christian Collins did something similar with the SFZ patch he designed named "SCC Expressive Strings" (not so much a "cinematic" string patch, but rather a traditional orchestral tone):
http://schristiancollins.com/vi-orchestra.php

Yes I guess it can be achieved by that.
I hope someone will kind enough to create one in sfz

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sat May 16, 2020 4:14 pm

Btw, another free grand piano is coming soon...
An old one...
Blessed by the creator himself

Meanwhile, the mtg saxes wip

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sun May 17, 2020 10:56 am

And another old nice small free E.pianos...

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Thu May 21, 2020 7:19 am

Mats Helgesson - Maestro Concert Grand Piano
250 MB Flac (orginally .gig format, about 1 GB)
https://github.com/sfzinstruments/MatsH ... GrandPiano

Obsolete462444 · Post by **Obsolete462444** » Fri May 22, 2020 7:50 pm

kinwie wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 7:19 am Mats Helgesson - Maestro Concert Grand Piano
250 MB Flac (orginally .gig format, about 1 GB)
https://github.com/sfzinstruments/MatsH ... GrandPiano

Definitely one of my alltime favourite sample pianos!

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Sun May 24, 2020 12:51 pm

Greg Sullivan Electric Pianos,
Flac samples (originally .gig format)
Resurrected to sfz format :
https://github.com/sfzinstruments/GregSullivan.E-Pianos

3 small and nice pianos :
CP80, Pianet T and Wurlitzer EP200

enroe · Post by **enroe** » Sun May 24, 2020 5:29 pm

Well, this is just great what's happening.
Thanks a lot, Kinwie!

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Mon May 25, 2020 6:12 am

enroe wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 5:29 pm Well, this is just great what's happening.
Thanks a lot, Kinwie!

You''re welcome Enroe!
We are also happy to be able to preserve some good old instruments into open format.
The sfzinstruments repository is a perfect place for them.

kinwie · Post by **kinwie** » Mon May 25, 2020 6:18 am

A little note about the mappings that I've done. They're all dry, without any effects. So it is the best that users add their own prefered effects. Lot of free vst can done the job nicely, like these...

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Free Sample Libraries that urgently need .SFZ mapping