Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[e-crooner]

" I bet you can't find a mainstream recording recording from 1985 with a Minimoog on it. As I've said before, I started going to see bands in 1979 and I have never in my life seen a Minimoog on stage. Lots of OB's, Prophets, Pro-Ones, MS20s, Jupiter 8s and the occasional ARP Odyssey (Magazine and Ultravox, no less) but never a Minimoog."

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Exactly, not so much as a single Minimoog in use during the 80s. All those links point to 70 artists or artists in the 90s who had never had to rely on it, they could just use it as a novelty.

BTW, someone has made a correct guess but I am not allowed to tell you who.

I think he was being sarcastic.

Anyway, the Minimoog was used on the best-selling album of all time, Thriller.
This bass line for instance:


I like the door sound at the beginning, sounds just like my joints when I climb out of bed in the morning

[e-crooner]

Anyway, judging from your description that what might make the difference with the Korg is that it might have a wider Q area for the resonance. I know, Q is typically used for equalizers, but in a way a filter is also an equalizer. (Oddly, I have never seen a filter, where one could not only set the resonance, but also the q value for the resonance.)

I know I've seen one, can't remember what it was, though. Back in the day, "Q" was often used to label the resonance pot on a synth. And you are probably correct because I've also found that synths with a wider Q do tend to sound better, Wasp in Orion being a great example. And whilst "Q" might have some specific mathematical meaning, I understand perfectly what you are talking about here.

No, the cutoff frequency does not necessarily start at zero when using a filter envelope.

It does if you turn the cutoff down to zero, which was part of what I explained in my method.

"that fat, squelchy sound", well, I have heard it and frankly, I would not know what to do with it, it does not sound musical to me.

Then you have overdone it. The sound I am talking about is like the bassline in this (the one that comes in at 37 seconds) -

I don't like normal resonance, either, that irritating whistle sound.

Again, that will depend on the filter. In Moog ladder filter, the Q seems quite narrow so you get this disconnected squeal that sound awful but on a filter with a wider Q, the resonance is more just a part of the timbre and can make a bass part more audible in the mix. Of course, what you want to achieve in that situation is to make it more audible without losing the bottom end thump, which is why I hate ladder filters so much.

I never set it beyond 3/4 on my synth because it sounds unpleasant to me. Usually, I remain within the first 25% or so, only to give the sound a slightly different character, the nasal touch.

I rarely go beyond 40% myself but, again, with a ladder filter you don't really get much of anything happening below about half-way, so setting it at 25% will often make no difference at all. It will be most noticeable if you are modulating the cutoff with an envelope but if you are just trying to get some extra harmonics into a drone or a pad, you really have to crank it.

I think your negative view of the Minimoog is unjustified. There is a reason why it has been used on zillions on records.

Yes, because it was cheap and available. Nobody held onto them once better synths came along. i.e. I bet you can't find a mainstream recording from 1985 with a Minimoog on it. As I've said before, I started going to see bands in 1979 and I have never in my life seen a Minimoog on stage. Lots of OB's, Prophets, Pro-Ones, MS20s, Jupiter 8s and the occasional ARP Odyssey (Magazine and Ultravox, no less) but never a Minimoog.

It's not that someone or a studio that can afford a Minimoog can't afford an MS20. Yet, the Minimoog has been more popular.

The Minimoog was available a full 8 years before the MS20 and when it came out it had literally no competitors, so of course it got a lot of use for a period of time. I've never seen a new one in a shop, only old ones that had been traded in on newer, better synths. And those trade-ins often sat in shops for years. Once there was competition, Minimoog disappeared pretty quickly.

I don't have an oscilloscope plugin, nor Legend or the Korg. The Korg's different resonance sound should be visible on the scope I suppose.

That music in your video is so loud and dense, I can hardly hear and focus on the sound you mean, although I do know which sound you mean.

Well, if you have a low cutoff frequency, even 15 or 20% of resonance will already make a clear difference.

The Minimoog is still popular today, aren't they manufacturing it again? That wouldn't be the case if it were not in demand.

[chk071]

BONES can argue all the way he wants, the Minimoog is still a very relevant synth nowadays, and has been in the past, and will be in the future. No matter if the resonant behavior, or the character of the synth or filter in general is your thing or not.

Personally, I don't know any other synth with such a thick raw sound.

[Calenberger]

BONES can argue all the way he wants, the Minimoog is still a very relevant synth nowadays, and has been in the past, and will be in the future. No matter if the resonant behavior, or the character of the synth or filter in general is your thing or not.

Personally, I don't know any other synth with such a thick raw sound.

BONES has obviously (by the way: the name for the synth?) a minority opinion. Who cares.

[e-crooner]

Judging from his own music, I think he has a rather different idea of what sounds good and what doesn't. While it is all subjective, I think it is fair to assume he represents a small minority.

And the Minimoog sounds fine without any resonance, of course. So that whole lack of bottom becomes kind of irrelevant.

[e-crooner]

Not sure I have spotted all guesses made so far, but I think it might be Obsession. Obelix is probably a registered name.

[wagtunes]

Not sure I have spotted all guesses made so far, but I think it might be Obsession. Obelix is probably a registered name.

Obsession is a perfume. Not sure if that will be a problem (two different industries) but I'm just putting that out there.

[vurt]

knobend.

[Calenberger]

OBnisphere?

[Calenberger]

OBsynth?

[vurt]

OBnisphere?

that would actually be funny


obrion platinum?

[AnX]

OB Have

[vurt]

OB Have

yes dad.

[FapFilter]

OBsynth?

haha, whatever they'lll actually call it, it won't top this!

[carrieres]

OBey ?