Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[simmo75]

Arturia shows as $49, seems pretty reasonable and definitely worth a test drive.

[zvenx]

I bet the Synapse version would've been out weeks ago if their beta team spent more time testing and less time on KVR arguing about Minimoog filters, getting posts deleted, and discussing the on-stage gear of 80s bands in Perth.


[And yes, I'm entirely joking. Everybody calm down.]

Dwl.
rsp

[AnX]

Tried the Arturia one. Uses more cpu, dopesn't sound as good. It's ok but I think Synapse will do fine. I do hope it is priced the same as The Legend though to be as competitive as possible against Arturia's low prices.

Arturia shows as $49, seems pretty reasonable and definitely worth a test drive.

Arturia's full price is €199, early bird €149, with various lower prices for ppl who own several of their products

[AnX]

Ultimately, it's the price that will determine this for me. Weill wait for Synapse's before making a decision.

really?

not which one you prefer the sound of? (regardless of who thinks what is "better")

[vurt]

we would be his band. they dont do disco inspired pop.
they dont do the things michael jackson did, they are not him.

I have heard a bit of their music, my mum would consider it torture, and so do I Actually, I dare suppose most people on the planet would.

i dont think bones cares, and nor should he.
he and his bandmate, make music they enjoy. numbers are irrelevant.

the reason michael jacksons dance music was as good as it was, was because that was mjs personality. his ballads on the other hand were mostly twee dull shite, because that wasnt.
cant grab your crotch and squeak while moonwalking to liberian girl...

when an artist, does what they feel, rather than what they think sells well, we get a better end result, otherwise we get stock, aitken and waterboarded by shite unautehentic people who look lovely but are quite talentless, but hey, it sells...

[wagtunes]

Ultimately, it's the price that will determine this for me. Weill wait for Synapse's before making a decision.

really?

not which one you prefer the sound of? (regardless of who thinks what is "better")

Again, for the same $149 (assuming that's what it will cost) I get 4 new synths, all of which I can use for my business. So yes, it makes a big difference in spite of the sound.

[vurt]

Ultimately, it's the price that will determine this for me. Weill wait for Synapse's before making a decision.

really?

not which one you prefer the sound of? (regardless of who thinks what is "better")

Again, for the same $149 (assuming that's what it will cost) I get 4 new synths, all of which I can use for my business. So yes, it makes a big difference in spite of the sound.

[chk071]

If your business is your main concern, I'd get the synth which sells the most copies. Which would be the Arturia in this case, I'd assume.

[simmo75]

Tried the Arturia one. Uses more cpu, dopesn't sound as good. It's ok but I think Synapse will do fine. I do hope it is priced the same as The Legend though to be as competitive as possible against Arturia's low prices.

Arturia shows as $49, seems pretty reasonable and definitely worth a test drive.

Arturia's full price is €199, early bird €149, with various lower prices for ppl who own several of their products

Definitely $49 here, I just bought it

[e-crooner]

we would be his band. they dont do disco inspired pop.
they dont do the things michael jackson did, they are not him.

I have heard a bit of their music, my mum would consider it torture, and so do I Actually, I dare suppose most people on the planet would.

i dont think bones cares, and nor should he.
he and his bandmate, make music they enjoy. numbers are irrelevant.

the reason michael jacksons dance music was as good as it was, was because that was mjs personality. his ballads on the other hand were mostly twee dull shite, because that wasnt.
cant grab your crotch and squeak while moonwalking to liberian girl...

when an artist, does what they feel, rather than what they think sells well, we get a better end result, otherwise we get stock, aitken and waterboarded by shite unautehentic people who look lovely but are quite talentless, but hey, it sells...

MJ's 80's stuff, especially Thriller, was musically successful because the production was great, thanks to Jones and Swedien. And they used great studio musicians, the whole Quincy Jones staff.

And the girls liked him of course because he still looked good back then But that's something I don't care about

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Again, for the same $149 (assuming that's what it will cost) I get 4 new synths, all of which I can use for my business. So yes, it makes a big difference in spite of the sound.

But Wags, you already have a TON of instruments. At a certain point, it's gotta become about quality over quantity. Out of VCollection7: the Melotron is not better than MTron and sounds a bit cheesey IMO, the CZ is nice, the Synthi sounds nice but a bit esoteric in use, the organ update is not better than things like AcousticSamples or VB-3 II and others, and you'd get a sub-par OB-Xa (it does not sound very good at all so far IMO).

So of those, what's worth upgrading for you and what's going to add to what you already have? Hence, why I'd advise you to wait. VCollection8 should be out soon, and less than a year later will be on a $99 upgrade anyway. Just wait it out with Arturia.

[vurt]

we would be his band. they dont do disco inspired pop.
they dont do the things michael jackson did, they are not him.

I have heard a bit of their music, my mum would consider it torture, and so do I Actually, I dare suppose most people on the planet would.

i dont think bones cares, and nor should he.
he and his bandmate, make music they enjoy. numbers are irrelevant.

the reason michael jacksons dance music was as good as it was, was because that was mjs personality. his ballads on the other hand were mostly twee dull shite, because that wasnt.
cant grab your crotch and squeak while moonwalking to liberian girl...

when an artist, does what they feel, rather than what they think sells well, we get a better end result, otherwise we get stock, aitken and waterboarded by shite unautehentic people who look lovely but are quite talentless, but hey, it sells...

MJ's 80's stuff, especially Thriller, was musically successful because the production was great, thanks to Jones and Swedien. And they used great studio musicians, the whole Quincy Jones staff.

And the girls liked him of course because he still looked good back then But that's something I don't care about

well of course the production helped, but getting the right artist on a production is a part of that.

all i meant was, its better for a musician/artist to do what pleases them, than what pays the bills. imo.
even more so for any artist who is expecting a live audience.
as a paying customer, i would prefer to see someone who is in to the music they are performing rather than going through the motions.

and as you say, the majority dont really care, they listen to a radio, maybe buy the odd album (usually one thats been played at them on the radio).
bones audience on the other hand, do care, to them music is part of their identity, its music theyve had to seek out because the mainstream wasnt feeding it to them.

neither is necessarily better music as such, but better suited to an audience of a different type.
mj would get booed off at most gigs ive ever been to (except one where he didnt ) (i saw him at aintree many years ago)(i say i saw him, i could hear him and there was a tiny spec moving about on the stage) because the audience is expecting something with more bite.
bones would get booed off at a chamber orchestra recital.
music has different things to say, different contexts, different audiences.

disappointed noone picked up stock, aitken and waterboarded

[e-crooner]

Most artists don't really have the option to do what they like doing. They have bills to pay. Now it's even worse as live concerts are pretty much taboo.

[AnX]

Ultimately, it's the price that will determine this for me. Weill wait for Synapse's before making a decision.

really?

not which one you prefer the sound of? (regardless of who thinks what is "better")

Again, for the same $149 (assuming that's what it will cost) I get 4 new synths, all of which I can use for my business. So yes, it makes a big difference in spite of the sound.

ah OK, so you're buying to make and sell soundbanks, not music

seems like a decent business decision then

[wagtunes]

Ultimately, it's the price that will determine this for me. Weill wait for Synapse's before making a decision.

really?

not which one you prefer the sound of? (regardless of who thinks what is "better")

Again, for the same $149 (assuming that's what it will cost) I get 4 new synths, all of which I can use for my business. So yes, it makes a big difference in spite of the sound.

ah OK, so you're buying to make and sell soundbanks, not music

seems like a decent business decision then

The thing is, love or hate Arturia stuff, out of 80 libraries, the V5 collection is my 8th best seller and the V6 collection is my 20th best seller. Arturia stuff sells. I don't know why. It just does. Plus, you have so many synths you can make presets for, you can literally make hundreds over the span of a few synths and sell them for dirt cheap, relatively speaking. It's a no brainer as far as running a business.

And since I already have so many great sounding synths, do I really need an OB-Xa at all anyway? It's not like it was one of my favorite synths growing up, though I admit it does have a sound that's all its own. Or should I say Oberheim has a sound that's all its own. I was a Matrix 6R owner and absolutely loved the way that thing sounded. It was the fattest synth I'd ever owned at the time.

They don't make them like that anymore.