Arturia OB-Xa V

[fmr]

im assuming it would be in the manual?
i have bits with such things, and usually the manual explains what theyre for.

Maybe, but I sincerely doubt. If I was Oberheim, I wouldn't want users to mess with these. If you have access to a manual, check it. I will try to find one.

theyre just trim pots, its not like you need any know how, you just turn it a bit

Maybe if I was bored and wanted to try my luck

But I usually prefer to play with them, instead of opening and checking the circuits.

[AnX]

11 on there I can see, all useful.

tunings, pan, ranges etc

So, you know... Good for you. You belong to that 1% who would know what to do with them

Can you tell me which is which?

Ranges too?

yes, say the range of the filter/res or env stages etc

the point is, the 8 cards are set slightly diff, and behave slightly diff, which is what gives it its character/analogue sound.

its a level of accuracy found in recent uhe stuff.... maybe they shouldn't have bothered too?

[chk071]

Well, that's the nature of emulation. I doubt they use any existing plugin as a blueprint though, rather the hardware. And, there's a lot of room for improvement, as you could have seen with any of the newer Minimoog emulations. They're far beyond anything which has been achieved before.

I think the point that's trying to be made is, do we really need or want another emulation?

If it was any Minimoog emulation, I'd agree (NI Monark is where it ends for me really... I don't need more authenticity than that), but, I really think that Oberheim hasn't been done to excess, and, especially the OB-Xa, or OB-X still need some emulation (I would have preferred the OB-X even, but, that's personal preference).

[rasmusklump]

erm, no... you don't get it.... the cards have trimmers, fully user adjustable... its not black magic

This is a picture of an OB-Xa card. Now, tell me what you would adjust, and why

Is this what you want access to?

the trim pots?

black and white, little philips screw. theres a couple on there at least.

Yes there are. What would you do with them? Why?

not a clue what they are for on these cards.
but tuning oscillators, would be one thing, depending on the other characteristics that make up "1 voice" youll have to guess the other 4 functions (im assuming 5 per voice?)

Exactly. I wouldn't touch them because "I have no clue" what they are for, and I would risk to f*** things up if I did. They are there for technicians to tune some things on the cards. But it's for technicians, not for the regular user.

And there are ten of those (not five).

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[fmr]

its a level of accuracy found in recent uhe stuff.... maybe they shouldn't have bothered too?

I wouldn't say they shouldn't bother. I just say that 99% of users simply don't give a s.. to that, and would never touch those controls.

Sure, for the geek minds that's paradise... But I'm not sure it will give the instrument any extra quality.

I would prefer, for example, to have something like the SEM filter that was in the OB-X but not in the OB-Xa, even if that wasn't faithful to the emulation. Among other things that would mean deviating from the original

[fuzzlightyear]

Who cares? I buy things because I feel I have a use for it. No other reason. This year so far, almost 5 full months into the year, I haven't bought one synth. Hell, the only thing I bought all year was a new controller for $260 because my old one had so many problems with it.

I hardly buy synths at all anymore. But if something comes out that I find interesting enough to get, I'll get it.

I couldn't care less if all the hardware synths in the world ever made got emulated.

I'm not going to tell you what to spend your money on, just trying to let you know that eventually long time consumers of digital software emulating classic and discontinued hardware is eventually going to run it's course.

I believe it's already happening with the over saturation of the marketplace and everyone already having SSDs full of plugins they haven't touched in years. There are better places to put your money, but if it's a hobby, obsession or whatever, enjoy it because you're right, no one cares.

[chk071]

erm, no... you don't get it.... the cards have trimmers, fully user adjustable... its not black magic

This is a picture of an OB-Xa card. Now, tell me what you would adjust, and why

Is this what you want access to?

the trim pots?

black and white, little philips screw. theres a couple on there at least.

Yes there are. What would you do with them? Why?

not a clue what they are for on these cards.
but tuning oscillators, would be one thing, depending on the other characteristics that make up "1 voice" youll have to guess the other 4 functions (im assuming 5 per voice?)

Exactly. I wouldn't touch them because "I have no clue" what they are for, and I would risk to f*** things up if I did. They are there for technicians to tune some things on the cards. But it's for technicians, not for the regular user.

That's what I kept thinking when I opened up that panel in RePro-5.

[SLiC]

I have been playing with this for a couple of hours now. Its a really good VSTi, some of the best analog string sounds I have heard on any VSTi with a lovely stereo spread and a really nice filter (check out 'overdrive mono lead')

Cant speak for how closely it emulates an OB (and personally I don't care) but this is without a doubt a really good instrument, so enjoy it for what it is...it will (eventfully) be a great addition to the V collection and a will no doubt make the bundle even better value.

[mholloway]

Emulating trim-pot panning is awesome, Diva and Repro-5 do this, the new Arturia does this, the OP-X Pro does this....and so on. This is not weird / rare / bizarre behavior at all, whatever the literal voice card looked like. I sincerely hope the Synapse Ob-xa provides this type of individual voice-panning control, and if not, that's a strong mark in the Arturia's ob-xa's favor.

[WatchTheGuitar]

its a level of accuracy found in recent uhe stuff.... maybe they shouldn't have bothered too?

I wouldn't say they shouldn't bother. I just say that 99% of users simply don't give a s.. to that, and would never touch those controls.

Sure, for the geek minds that's paradise... But I'm not sure it will give the instrument any extra quality.

I would prefer, for example, to have something like the SEM filter that was in the OB-X but not in the OB-Xa, even if that wasn't faithful to the emulation. Among other things that would mean deviating from the original

The one hour intro live launch video that some very French Arturia bod did earlier explained that their OB-Xa V incorporates some elements of OB-X and OB-8 too, but you can get the SEM V filter separately or in other Arturia bundles so maybe that's why it's not there.

The one hour vid is quite funny - the 'player' guy's headphone lead is too short so gets tangled in his hands as he plays and then later in a fit of pique he dumped the headphones down on one of the keyboard keys which plays havoc with the other fella's demo until he realises. Tbf he does reference the Silicon Valley delete key scene.

[mholloway]

My upgrade price was $49, but I have the V-Collection and Effects collection too.

it looks like it's 49 bucks for everybody right now, regardless of what products you own - this image is from their main page on the synth, not my news page:

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[AnX]

its a level of accuracy found in recent uhe stuff.... maybe they shouldn't have bothered too?

I wouldn't say they shouldn't bother. I just say that 99% of users simply don't give a s.. to that, and would never touch those controls.

Sure, for the geek minds that's paradise... But I'm not sure it will give the instrument any extra quality.

im not saying you should open up your synth and change them, but of course you can, and ppl do. What I'm saying is, they are already set diff, that's what gives it "that sound" (in software of course, it's very simple, and won't invalidate your warranty)

modelling that behaviour will lead to greater accuracy, thats all....

[chk071]

My upgrade price was $49, but I have the V-Collection and Effects collection too.

it looks like it's 49 bucks for everybody right now, regardless of what products you own - this image is from their main page on the synth, not my news page:

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It's still $99 for me, and I own Spark 2.

[AnX]

My upgrade price was $49, but I have the V-Collection and Effects collection too.

it looks like it's 49 bucks for everybody right now, regardless of what products you own - this image is from their main page on the synth, not my news page:

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are you logged in tho? Still says €149 here

[WatchTheGuitar]

My upgrade price was $49, but I have the V-Collection and Effects collection too.

it looks like it's 49 bucks for everybody right now, regardless of what products you own - this image is from their main page on the synth, not my news page:

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No it'll show your personal offer price if you are logged in. If you logout or visit it in incognito you'll see it as 149.

Personally though I like the look of this I'm hanging fire until at least V8. I didn't upgrade before as I had the M-Tron and XILS 4 and I own the OPX PRO II so it's not compelling enough a deal for me at €149.