Arturia OB-Xa V

[Ingonator]

I just posted this in the other thread:

I just talked with Richard from Synpase Audio and he allowed me to tell that the Synapse Audio OB-Xa plugin will include a Bandpass filter with 12dB and 24dB modes.

This is one of the advanced features that currently is not included in the Arturia plugin and that i used in several of my own patches for the Synapse Audio plugin.

Nice that you tipped Arturia off- I bet it will be in the next update in a few weeks

It may be a good sounding filter, but a bandpass filer is neither a feature from OB-X nor a feature from OB-Xa/OB-8. It simply doesn't belong to these synths, IMO.

The Bandpass filter modes are an ADDITIONAL feature. Do you want them to removed just because they were not included in the real OB-Xa?
Just because something was not included in the real synth it does not mean it makes no sense to include them in a plugin. At least the Synapse Audio plugin like the real thing includes the F-ENV button in the Osc section which is missing in the Arturia plugin (i had already mentioend that here).

[wagtunes]

You really should take your medicine as prescribed!

He may be an obnoxious ass but he makes a good point.

As someone who has well over 100 VSTs, if Synapse doesn't come out with this thing before the Arturia deal lapses, I'm going to pick up the OB-Xa V. I watched the Arturia demos and it sounds fine.

At that point, I will have no need for another OB-Xa. And certainly not at the price Synapse is most likely going to charge. Plus for $149, I get V7 which gives me several other products that I don't have currently.

If I feel this way, someone who has bought way more synths than he needs, it can't be beyond the realm of reason that many other people will feel this way as well.

Mind you, I am an owner of Dune 2, Dune 3, Legend and Dune CM. I love Richard's stuff. But I don't need 2 OB-Xa synths.

There is no question Synapse will lose sales. How many? That remains to be seen.

[fmr]

I just posted this in the other thread:

I just talked with Richard from Synpase Audio and he allowed me to tell that the Synapse Audio OB-Xa plugin will include a Bandpass filter with 12dB and 24dB modes.

This is one of the advanced features that currently is not included in the Arturia plugin and that i used in several of my own patches for the Synapse Audio plugin.

Nice that you tipped Arturia off- I bet it will be in the next update in a few weeks

It may be a good sounding filter, but a bandpass filer is neither a feature from OB-X nor a feature from OB-Xa/OB-8. It simply doesn't belong to these synths, IMO.

The Bandpass filter modes are an ADDITIONAL feature. Do you want them to removed just because they were not included in the real OB-Xa?
Just because something was not included in the real synth it does not mean it makes no sense to include them in a plugin. At least the Synapse Audio plugin like the real thing includes the F-ENV button in the Osc section which is missing in the Arturia plugin (i had already mentioend that here).

I am not disputing the addition of extra features - Arturia did that also. But if Synapse wanted to include extra filters (I already said I would like to have more options in the Arturia OB-Xa) then it should have included the SEM filter (which does bandpass too, but also a lot more) instead of a filter that simply has NOTHING TO DO with the Oberheims. Either it is an Oberheim, or it isn't

And the F-Env is there. It isn't in the Main Control Panel, for design reasons, but is in the Advanced Panel, in the Modulation Matrix. And that way you have the advantage of having extra destinations (go figure ) Ask first, before making statements.

[SLiC]

Arturia is right on time. Probably Synapse Audio will be at least as good, maybe even better. But... (sighs) Arturia has been released and can be tested, Synapse Audio has only announced their OB-Xa so far.
99€ (V-Collection user) is also a very good price.

I am not sure we can even say 'Synapse Audio' have 'announced' they are releasing an OB-XA VST! We have what the beta testers are saying, and some old posts from Richard that they are working on an OB-Xa emulation. A formal announcement on their web site as to the from and function would be great and help people decide if its worth the wait

[andrew71]

Absolutely spot on and exactly what I thought yesterday. They took this different approach for the very reason.

Example: Buy OB-Xa V now for $49. Later, probably December 2020, when V Collection 8 is out, give $99 for upgrade from your previous V Collection since discounted upgrades are always minimum $99. So, a sales advantage of $49 per sale.

Instead, I would wait and give $99 in December if I were to upgrade to V Collection 8 and get all the new synths.

But as always, pay more-get early.

I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling that last year the price to upgrade from V6 to V7 was $199 and people (including myself) weren't happy about it as they were expecting the previous $99 upgrade price.

From a PR perspective, dropping the products individually gives more opportunities for promotion and social media engagement.

[Spencer Maddox]

Slight off topic but what infinity stone of vintage synths have Auturia NOT collected now?
OSC OSCar comes to mind.
Some of the old Wardolf stuff, but that might all be under protection since they make plugins.
UVI got away with sampling them however in Their Vintage Collection.
But imo The OB-XA was their biggest omission to this point and they just snatched that.

[4damind]

Arturia is right on time. Probably Synapse Audio will be at least as good, maybe even better. But... (sighs) Arturia has been released and can be tested, Synapse Audio has only announced their OB-Xa so far.
99€ (V-Collection user) is also a very good price.

I am not sure we can even say 'Synapse Audio' have 'announced' they are releasing an OB-XA VST! We have what the beta testers are saying, and some old posts from Richard that they are working on an OB-Xa emulation. A formal announcement on their web site as to the from and function would be great and help people decide if its worth the wait

Yeah, right. More or less this are just information from beta testers. Even the assumption that Synapse will release the synth this year could be wrong. There is no official announcement.
However... speculation about what a competitor might release at some point in the future makes no sense. The only thing that makes sense right now is to test the Arturia OB-Xa.

[SLiC]

Absolutely spot on and exactly what I thought yesterday. They took this different approach for the very reason.

Example: Buy OB-Xa V now for $49. Later, probably December 2020, when V Collection 8 is out, give $99 for upgrade from your previous V Collection since discounted upgrades are always minimum $99. So, a sales advantage of $49 per sale.

Instead, I would wait and give $99 in December if I were to upgrade to V Collection 8 and get all the new synths.

But as always, pay more-get early.

I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling that last year the price to upgrade from V6 to V7 was $199 and people (including myself) weren't happy about it as they were expecting the previous $99 upgrade price.

From a PR perspective, dropping the products individually gives more opportunities for promotion and social media engagement.

I think that may have been as they introduced 3 new synths at once?
Anyway, as everyone knows, all you have to do is wait and you get a great deal eventually!!

[Ingonator]

And the F-Env is there. It isn't in the Main Control Panel, for design reasons, but is in the Advanced Panel, in the Modulation Matrix. And that way you have the advantage of having extra destinations (go figure ) Ask first, before making statements.

Please don't try to make me look like an idiot. I already mentioend that there is a workaround for that feature (with the mod matrix and function generators). The point is that the way how it was done in the real synth is not included.

[fmr]

And the F-Env is there. It isn't in the Main Control Panel, for design reasons, but is in the Advanced Panel, in the Modulation Matrix. And that way you have the advantage of having extra destinations (go figure ) Ask first, before making statements.

Please don't try to make me look like an idiot. I already mentioend that there is a workaround for that feature (with the mod matrix and function generators). The point is that the way how it was done in the real synth is not included.

How so? Because the control isn't in the main control panel?

And it isn't a workaround. It IS the same feature. And it's there, labeled as... FEnv.

But you are right in something. We have lots of tools for workarounds in this synth, if we want to

[Ingonator]

nvm

[simmo75]

Arturia did a great job modernizing a classic.
The modulation capabilities are wonderful.

[AdvancedFollower]

Absolutely spot on and exactly what I thought yesterday. They took this different approach for the very reason.

Example: Buy OB-Xa V now for $49. Later, probably December 2020, when V Collection 8 is out, give $99 for upgrade from your previous V Collection since discounted upgrades are always minimum $99. So, a sales advantage of $49 per sale.

Instead, I would wait and give $99 in December if I were to upgrade to V Collection 8 and get all the new synths.

But as always, pay more-get early.

I may be mistaken, but I have a feeling that last year the price to upgrade from V6 to V7 was $199 and people (including myself) weren't happy about it as they were expecting the previous $99 upgrade price.

From a PR perspective, dropping the products individually gives more opportunities for promotion and social media engagement.

$199 is usually the upgrade price to a new version of the V Collection. What people tend to do is wait until Black Friday, when the price tends to drop to $99.

[rezoneight]

You really should take your medicine as prescribed!

He may be an obnoxious ass but he makes a good point.

As someone who has well over 100 VSTs, if Synapse doesn't come out with this thing before the Arturia deal lapses, I'm going to pick up the OB-Xa V. I watched the Arturia demos and it sounds fine.

At that point, I will have no need for another OB-Xa. And certainly not at the price Synapse is most likely going to charge. Plus for $149, I get V7 which gives me several other products that I don't have currently.

If I feel this way, someone who has bought way more synths than he needs, it can't be beyond the realm of reason that many other people will feel this way as well.

Mind you, I am an owner of Dune 2, Dune 3, Legend and Dune CM. I love Richard's stuff. But I don't need 2 OB-Xa synths.

There is no question Synapse will lose sales. How many? That remains to be seen.

Wait...you're the guy that said it sounded god-awful a few pages ago or did I miss a mea culpa somewhere? (yes I'm joking...I do realize you said you watched more videos).

Anyhow, the jackass who you're saying has a good point really doesn't. There will be differences between the two that will make people either wait for the Synapse version or buy both. And the end of the day does anyone REALLY need this plugin? Like Arturia doesn't have the sonic landscape covered already in the rest of V7. If I pony up the $49 for this it will be because my collector itch is going.

Anyhow, my opinion is Synapse doesn't have anything to worry about.

[chk071]

IMO, Arturia won't have much to worry about either. I don't see this much as a either/or thing for most of the people out there. People who have bought Arturia so far will buy this, people who bought Synapse will buy the Synapse one. I don't see much of a competition, apart for the usual black/white crowd.