Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[Ingonator]

Does it have Stereo spread with left/right offsets

The voice edit pages besides several other parameters include a PAN parameter for setting the panning of a specific voice.

The "Spread" knob at the main GUI (like in the Arturia plugin) sets the amount of voice panning applied to the patch where with a value of 0 the voice panning is off.

Arturia Oscillators’ continuous X-Mod modulation- is this the same as OSC 2 X Mod

I explained the X-Mod feature in 2 of my earlier posts from today.

Thank you Ingonator for trying to fill in the gaps....

So the spread is less flexible than the Arturia, no 'left/right offsets' on oscillator, filter, and LFO parameters then...this seems to be a killer feature to me at least on the Arturia version (especially on the filter).

As far as I can tell based on your description the 'X Mod' the Arturia synth has exactly the same feature.

I am not seeing anything yet to rival the '4 bi-polar digital function generators that you can route to any and every parameter on the instrument. Each of them are variable in length with up to 16 points' - This will be a very important feature for me to review for Synapse when they finally show it.

I like the built in effects in the Arturia synth especially the multimode filter... (and if you dont like them you can turn them off, but hey are good for 'stand-alone' use if nothing else as you can play it witout a DAW!). What can we expect from Synapse in this regard and will the FX be modulated by whatever modulation method is used?

FWIW the current video is a "teaser video" and nobody said it alraedy explains each and every feature that will be included in the plugin. OBsession offers a lot more "under the hood" than you can see from the teaser video.

concerning multimode filter you get a dedicated resonant Bandpass filter at the main GUI with 12dB and 24dB slopes like the LPF.

As you can see in the video theer is Step LFO. The teaser video shows a part of the the step editing section at the backpanel.

[AnX]

8 voice poly... hmm that's a downside for me although not necessarily a deal breaker. I know a lot of classic synths had limited polyphony but in the software age I don't see why that limitation should exist (if it's to protect CPU then just allow the user to select the polyphony that their system can handle).

the original had 8 voices /cards/polyphony, and this is modeled the same (sep voice/card for each note pressed)

the Arturia one seems to have one common voice, so polyphony could really be unlimited, but you dont get the interaction between voices (a trade off really, good for polyphony/cpu, not so good for authenticity/quality)

[davidvilla]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe The Legend came out as a Reason Rack Extension first (the VSTi followed shortly thereafter).

wrong

No I'm not, pal. The rack extension came out on 9/20/2016. The VST came out on 9/24/2016.

[Ingonator]

8 voice poly... hmm that's a downside for me although not necessarily a deal breaker. I know a lot of classic synths had limited polyphony but in the software age I don't see why that limitation should exist (if it's to protect CPU then just allow the user to select the polyphony that their system can handle).

the original had 8 voices /cards/polyphony, and this is modeled the same (sep voice/card for each note pressed)

the Arturia one seems to have one common voice, so polyphony could really be unlimited, but you dont get the interaction between voices (a trade off really, good for polyphony/cpu, not so good for authenticity/quality)

I wonder what happens to the panning of the rest of the 16 voices in the Arturia plugin when you only get 8 voice panning trimmers. Usually if you allow more than 8 voices also the voice panning trimmers have to be available for those additional voices.

[BONES]

I think we need to keep a few secrets for the actual release. More than enough detail has already been provided for now, I reckon. I also think obsessing (pun intended) over features will all be moot once you hear how it sounds and once you hear the incredible variety of presets that have been created for it. Honestly, for such a seemingly simple synth, the range of usable, great sounding timbres it is capable of is astonishing. OBSession is so much more than a list of features, although the list of features is, I'm sure, competitive with what else is out there. But, as usual, it is the Synapse sound quality that carries the day.

[chk071]

In the meantime, while we're patiently waiting.

[Niowiad]

8 voice poly... hmm that's a downside for me although not necessarily a deal breaker. I know a lot of classic synths had limited polyphony but in the software age I don't see why that limitation should exist (if it's to protect CPU then just allow the user to select the polyphony that their system can handle).

the original had 8 voices /cards/polyphony, and this is modeled the same (sep voice/card for each note pressed)

the Arturia one seems to have one common voice, so polyphony could really be unlimited, but you dont get the interaction between voices (a trade off really, good for polyphony/cpu, not so good for authenticity/quality)

I wonder what happens to the panning of the rest of the 16 voices in the Arturia plugin when you only get 8 voice panning trimmers. Usually if you allow more than 8 voices also the voice panning trimmers have to be available for those additional voices.

Same way it works on OP-X.
The panpot for voice-1 also affects voice-9.

[AnX]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe The Legend came out as a Reason Rack Extension first (the VSTi followed shortly thereafter).

wrong

No I'm not, pal. The rack extension came out on 9/20/2016. The VST came out on 9/24/2016.

yeah OK...im not your pal

[Ingonator]

8 voice poly... hmm that's a downside for me although not necessarily a deal breaker. I know a lot of classic synths had limited polyphony but in the software age I don't see why that limitation should exist (if it's to protect CPU then just allow the user to select the polyphony that their system can handle).

the original had 8 voices /cards/polyphony, and this is modeled the same (sep voice/card for each note pressed)

the Arturia one seems to have one common voice, so polyphony could really be unlimited, but you dont get the interaction between voices (a trade off really, good for polyphony/cpu, not so good for authenticity/quality)

I wonder what happens to the panning of the rest of the 16 voices in the Arturia plugin when you only get 8 voice panning trimmers. Usually if you allow more than 8 voices also the voice panning trimmers have to be available for those additional voices.

Same way it works on OP-X.
The panpot for voice-1 also affects voice-9.

That was my guess too but when you allow more than 8 voices the extra voices should have an option to adjust the panning too.

[urosh]

OK, so far, what I would really liked is third LFO, everything else including name and layout seems perfect (except I don't know how it sounds, my hopes are not high that it will be just like original, but I am reasonably certain it will sound great).

I wont ask beta-testers for confirmation, but I would bet there is osc retrig + retrig phase control (judging by Legend), I only wish that retrig phase would be adjustable per voice, and not just globally.

[recursive one]

In the meantime, while we're patiently waiting.

I sincerely hope the synth will be able to produce something less cringeworthy

[Ingonator]

nvm

[BONES]

In the meantime, while we're patiently waiting.

Look at that tiny hand! Is that Donald Trump? I can promise you OBSession can do a lot more than the dull krap on that video, too.

How about some of these instead -

[chk071]

It was just something to beat the time you know. Like... elevator music.

[Echoes in the Attic]

The reality is that Rich seems to hate doing the GUI coding so he does the minimum necessary. I thought he might unload all that stuff onto Marcin but it doesn't seem to have improved since he joined the team.

What completely and unmercifully sets the two apart for me (and anyone else interested) is MPE support.
There are going to be things the OB-Xa V simply will not be able to do, saying this as a happy V7 and future V8 customer.

Really? Like what? I've had Roli controllers now for more than two years and I am yet to find any use for MPE.

Like doing vibrato (or other expressions) independently on different notes. You know, the whole point of it? You have to be willfully ignorant at this point not to know that.