Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

VST, AU, AAX, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

Your Favorite Wavetable VSTI/AU

Xfer Serum
92
13%
Auturia Pigments
73
11%
VPS Avenger
21
3%
Parawave Rapid
33
5%
Tone 2 Icarus
41
6%
UVI Falcon.
32
5%
Kilohearts Phase-Plant
29
4%
Sektor
1
0%
Omnisphere.
8
1%
DUNE 3
40
6%
Wave Codex
6
1%
Halion 6
13
2%
NI Massive (The Original)
18
3%
NI Massive X
39
6%
KV331 Synthmaster
21
3%
Sonic Academy ANA 2
10
1%
Waldorf Nave
10
1%
Waldorf Largo
10
1%
Ableton Wavetable.
19
3%
Zebra 2
31
5%
Hive 2
58
8%
Vast Dynamics Vaporizer 2
10
1%
Kontakt6 (Yes this counts Now I guess)
3
0%
Adam Szabo Viper
3
0%
Soundspot Union.
0
No votes
Surge
18
3%
Fathom
12
2%
Reason Europa
19
3%
Msoundfactory.
10
1%
WaveWardin Odin
3
0%
 
Total votes: 683

HcDoom
KVRian
1195 posts since 18 Feb, 2012

Post Sun May 17, 2020 11:37 am

I see people mention Serum 2 is in the making, anyone knows whats coming or...?

dune_rave
KVRAF
1656 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Sun May 17, 2020 11:50 am

I don't understand why pigments is on top, but don't give a ...

focusrite
KVRist
375 posts since 20 Aug, 2010

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Mon May 18, 2020 12:40 am

HcDoom wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:37 am
I see people mention Serum 2 is in the making, anyone knows whats coming or...?
It was mentioned last night but I think it's a way off yet. But there is a new version just released

1.296
Added: velocity (click Y location) to clicking the onscreen piano keyboard
Fix: "Lock Effect Rack" was not locking the new Level trim controls
Fix: “Remove modulator” from menu item on LFO Curve point was not clearing on Windows
Fix: “Remove modulator” on LFO was leaving the point in a ‘selected’ state
Fix: mix/level switch fallback wasn’t appearing if not in Windows skin cache
Fix: LFOs now process if they have a modulation assigned even if no destination
Fix: polyphony limit handling / released notes were getting priority over held notes in some situations.
Fix: LFO bus assignment menu for busses assigned to points but removed from Matrix

1.295
fix: FX rack (and single) preset state save/recall for FX Level trims.
fix: Unicode in saved preset name. fix: LFO5+ would not appear if newly-assigning the last LFO source to an LFO bus on the LFO window.
fix: LFO shape was displaying incorrect in some situations with adjacent modulated LFO points.
add: alt-dragging a modulated LFO to wavetable will now render out a set of tables with the modulations.

Fixes from 1.293 posted a few days ago / should now be resolved:

The Hyper "Level" trim is not resetting on "init preset".
The Reverb "Level" trim is not affecting Plate reverb mode
Crash with context menu (right-click) on LFO Points if a lower-numbered LFO Bus is unassigned (e.g. no Bus1 assignment anymore just Bus2).
1.294 adds: drop targets for LFO point modulation, I did manage a crash just now making a drag assignment with active notes, so use this feature with crash caution in mind (e.g. saved work). would appreciate any drag and drop testing or gripes

Changes:

New: LFO Point modulation

Right-click (ctrl-click MacOS) on a point in the LFO Graph, you will see “Modulate X” and Modulate Y” options on the pop-up menu.

You will then see a list of (in use) LFO Busses plus one empty one (e.g. you only see "LFO Bus 1" only when starting a new preset) followed by a list of Mod Sources.

By selecting a mod source, you are Creating a Matrix assignment (Selected Mod Source -> LFO Bus) and also the point association (e.g. point X axis->LFO Bus).

The busses allow for multiple points to be controlled by a single Matrix assignment/depth.

You can e.g. drag-select multiple points and assign them to the same bus.

New: drag-export last played note as wav file.

You should see a waveform icon appear when mousing over the very top-left of Serum's window (top-left corner of SERUM logo).
Drag this to the DAW, it records the last played note+velo+duration to a file (Serum Presets/Renders/).

This is a replaying of the note, so the result is like playing the note again (e.g. will not be identical in sound if random or BPM-sync features are enabled).

Please note: you are creating audio files on your hard disk by using this feature (they don’t ‘magically’ get created in the DAW project, that would be nice if it were technically possible), so management of these files is up to you. Serum does not use them directly itself, but if you drag it to your DAW, your DAW may now be referencing this file. If you drag a lot you will end up with a lot of audio files in the Renders folder, so you may want to consider file management techniques (e.g. relocate or consolidate if using in a project) ahead of time. You can alt-click the drag export button to open the Renders folder in the OS.

New: Hi resolution resampling of Serum's skin bitmaps on Windows (gets macOS resampling quality).

Since this is heavy computation (slow), to speed up opening Serum, the resized images get cached (%APPDATA%\Xfer\Serum) of the last set skin+zoom size. So Serum will resize slower when setting the zoom to a new setting, or selecting a new skin, but if you save the size and/or skin as the default(s) in the SERUM logo menu, then opening should be faster than ever on subsequent openings of the window.

New: automation parameters for the 8 LFO Rise, LFO Delay controls - these controls were not automatable in the DAW previously.

New: Level Trim controls for the effect modules

Clicking on the MIX switch on any effect mix knob will expose a modulatable level parameter, to attenuate or boost the output from any effect. This can be useful for attenuating the effect chain level to e.g. match Direct Out oscillators, or gating/muting sound as well as boosting (e.g. in front of distortion for more drive).

Fix: when at 110% zoom, tooltip numbers were drawing overlapped on adjusting AHDSR controls modulation depth popup value (note: it is likely there are similar value-display issues to locate and fix)

Fix: manual value entry on distortion Q below 0.1 would crash

Fix: better browser support for nested folders, truncated text in the preset filters when using Sort by Location

EnGee
KVRAF
6125 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Mon May 18, 2020 1:07 am

by the way, who programmed the Wavetable Synth for Ableton? This has really a very smart design! It sounds great also! This is a great synth. Good job Ableton :clap:
Win 10 with Live 10 (or S1 v4) and ATOM/nektar P4 these days 8)

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aMUSEd
KVRAF
31350 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Mon May 18, 2020 2:19 am

EnGee wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:07 am
by the way, who programmed the Wavetable Synth for Ableton? This has really a very smart design! It sounds great also! This is a great synth. Good job Ableton :clap:
Yeah I really love it too, and it probably has amongst the best filters of any Wavetable (those are by Cytomic but I presume they didn't do the whole thing).

EnGee
KVRAF
6125 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Mon May 18, 2020 2:58 am

Very nice filters indeed! Combine those filters with flexible modulation and great oscillators plus the easy and great workflow and you have a winner!
This wavetable synth and Operator only justified the price to upgrade from Standard to Suite! (especially now it is discounted, last day though I think).
Win 10 with Live 10 (or S1 v4) and ATOM/nektar P4 these days 8)

nickc901
KVRer
3 posts since 31 Mar, 2020

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Fri May 22, 2020 12:03 pm

Im surprised phase plant is as low as it is. Ive seen it mentioned like one time in this thread. Its an absolute monster.

yellowmix
KVRAF
1625 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Fri May 22, 2020 2:49 pm

I tend to think of Phase Plant as an FM synth. It's got linear and exponential FM, phase modulation, and you can arrange up to 32 operators any way you want. It shows the resulting waveform at every stage.

But yeah, its wavetable capabilities are pretty good too, and has one of the best visual wavetable editors around.

nonstatic
KVRist
119 posts since 7 Nov, 2002

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Sat May 23, 2020 1:56 am

EnGee wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:07 am
by the way, who programmed the Wavetable Synth for Ableton? This has really a very smart design! It sounds great also! This is a great synth. Good job Ableton :clap:
There was an article in Computer Music which said it was Surreal Machines.

EnGee
KVRAF
6125 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Sat May 23, 2020 2:03 am

nonstatic wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 1:56 am
EnGee wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 1:07 am
by the way, who programmed the Wavetable Synth for Ableton? This has really a very smart design! It sounds great also! This is a great synth. Good job Ableton :clap:
There was an article in Computer Music which said it was Surreal Machines.
Thank you :tu:
Win 10 with Live 10 (or S1 v4) and ATOM/nektar P4 these days 8)

nickc901
KVRer
3 posts since 31 Mar, 2020

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Sat May 23, 2020 9:49 am

with phase plants ability to use snap ins, you can do all your processing inside of the synth. And they recently incorporated multipass and snap heap into it as well. Multipass is a frequency splitting processing rack. with its Sampler,FM capabilities and routing system, You can do some really unique and wild sh1t in this synth. Its not as easy to use as say serum, but its still pretty intuitive. You can have up to 32 oscillators, 32 modulators, nutz

KBSoundSmith
KVRian
835 posts since 6 Jul, 2009

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Sat May 23, 2020 10:30 am

nickc901 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 12:03 pm
Im surprised phase plant is as low as it is. Ive seen it mentioned like one time in this thread. Its an absolute monster.
It deserves to be low. It's powerful on paper, but cumbersome and unpleasant to use in practice, loosely tossing around a bunch of half-baked ideas which are handled in far-superior ways in other synths. I'm frankly surprised Phase Plant didn't receive a colder reception than it did.

SamDi
KVRist
81 posts since 27 Apr, 2018

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Sat May 23, 2020 11:55 am

Oh wow, my votes are in top 5.

Does it mean, that I have a good taste now, or just, that I am mainstream? :eek:

EnGee
KVRAF
6125 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Sat May 23, 2020 1:08 pm

I definitely have a good taste 8) all my choices are in top 30 :D
Win 10 with Live 10 (or S1 v4) and ATOM/nektar P4 these days 8)

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RexBanner
KVRer
26 posts since 11 Feb, 2020

Re: Wavetable Synth Poll 2020

Post Sat May 23, 2020 2:57 pm

I think I'm gonna try ANA 2.

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