Free Sample Libraries that urgently need .SFZ mapping

[kinwie]

Ohh, and if you want to have a filter to velocity tracking for the instrument, it is easy, just insert these at the <global>, e.g :

cutoff=200
fil_veltrack=8400

or,

cutoff=500
fil_veltrack=6600

Something like that...

[kinwie]

This is also going to be published at github sfzinstruments.
I can't decide which order of the Equalizer CCs is better.
If you guys can help give opinion...please....thanks!

A

head1.jpg

B

head2.jpg

[JeffLearman]

Hard to say which is best; both are good. I like that the 2nd keeps the parameters for each EQ together in CC sequence (so, might be easier to read settings in an sfz file.) But the 1st makes it easier to compare things that should be coordinated (frequencies in a column, etc.)

What are C and D?

[kinwie]

C is Close mic
D is Decca Tree mic

Each mic layer has 3-band EQ
The labels are long so I had them shortened.
Though, the order can be re-setting later by users, I just want to make a better one for defaut. But still can't decide yet

[JeffLearman]

Mats Helgesson - Maestro Concert Grand Piano
250 MB Flac (orginally .gig format, about 1 GB)
https://github.com/sfzinstruments/MatsH ... GrandPiano

First, thanks for mapping this piano! But now the criticisms, because no good deed goes unpunished.

The pedal noise is way too loud. It's a bad sample in that when it gets over 64, it's pounding the sustain pedal down hard, which we rarely do when playing. But that's not your fault. The problem is that the mapping causes it to retrigger as I press and release the pedal. (It retriggers a LOT as the pedal goes up and down.) I'm used to partial pedaling, so I don't just push it and then let it up, even when playing a digital piano that doesn't support it old habits kick in and my foot operates itself, and it sounds like thunder in the background! Well, I just turned the pedal noise off and that solved both these problems. So no biggie there for me, but thought you'd appreciate the feedback. (Note that I'm playing a piano that supports half-pedaling, so it sends MIDI cc64 with every little change in the sustain pedal. No doubt it sounds a lot different with an on/off sustain pedal.)

The other issue is that if I play any normal notes with sustain pedal down , and then play an undamped note and then release the pedal, the first set of notes continue to ring, which they should not. This will mess up a lot of good MIDI tracks and should be fixed in the distro. I don't understand ampeg_release programming with cc and curve, but I can tell you it's not quite working right.

[JeffLearman]

C is Close mic
D is Decca Tree mic

Aha thanks.

But still can't decide yet

Yeah, hard to decide, but either way it's good!

[kinwie]

Mats Helgesson - Maestro Concert Grand Piano
250 MB Flac (orginally .gig format, about 1 GB)
https://github.com/sfzinstruments/MatsH ... GrandPiano

First, thanks for mapping this piano! But now the criticisms, because no good deed goes unpunished.

The pedal noise is way too loud. It's a bad sample in that when it gets over 64, it's pounding the sustain pedal down hard, which we rarely do when playing. But that's not your fault. The problem is that the mapping causes it to retrigger as I press and release the pedal. (It retriggers a LOT as the pedal goes up and down.) I'm used to partial pedaling, so I don't just push it and then let it up, even when playing a digital piano that doesn't support it old habits kick in and my foot operates itself, and it sounds like thunder in the background! Well, I just turned the pedal noise off and that solved both these problems. So no biggie there for me, but thought you'd appreciate the feedback. (Note that I'm playing a piano that supports half-pedaling, so it sends MIDI cc64 with every little change in the sustain pedal. No doubt it sounds a lot different with an on/off sustain pedal.)

The other issue is that if I play any normal notes with sustain pedal down , and then play an undamped note and then release the pedal, the first set of notes continue to ring, which they should not. This will mess up a lot of good MIDI tracks and should be fixed in the distro. I don't understand ampeg_release programming with cc and curve, but I can tell you it's not quite working right.

Thanks for your feedback, Jeff
The mapping is closely follow the original giga settings, including the ampeg release values.
I only move the pedal noises to cc64 and cc66, but yeah, lowering the volume is the solution. And you can edit the set_hdcc or amplitude value for that.
Other issue, I'll try to look into the mapping again, if there is something I miss put into

[JeffLearman]

Lowering the volume isn't the solution. Killing it or reprogramming it to not retrigger is the solution. I have an sfz piano somewhere that works better and I'll see what that does.

The ampeg_release things seems odd; I don't see how it could interact with sustain at all (other than the usual). That is, I just don't understand this interaction, and wonder if maybe it's an Aria bug. It's not related to variable sustain because it still happens if I turn that feature off on my keyboard.

[JeffLearman]

Hah, the other piano (Salamander Grand, but not from github/sfzinstruments) also retriggers, but the sample doesn't have that loud knock in it so it's fine. It handles pedal release differently and it works a lot better for my piano with variable sustain:

Code: Select all

<group> group=1 hikey=-1 lokey=-1 on_locc64=126 on_hicc64=127 off_by=2 volume=-20

<region> sample=44.1khz16bit\pedalD1.flac lorand=0 hirand=0.5
<region> sample=44.1khz16bit\pedalD2.flac lorand=0.5 hirand=1

<group> group=2 hikey=-1 lokey=-1 on_locc64=0 on_hicc64=1 volume=-19

<region> sample=44.1khz16bit\pedalU1.flac lorand=0 hirand=0.5
<region> sample=44.1khz16bit\pedalU2.flac lorand=0.5 hirand=1

I'll probably just use that sample & programming in Maestro.

[kinwie]

Yeah, you can edit the pedal value
#define $PED_UP 0
#define $PED_DN 127
Because you are using partial pedalling

1 and 126 also should be good

[JeffLearman]

Ah good point, thanks.

[kinwie]

Ah good point, thanks.

I'll update the defines values at the github repo
Thanks again for your feedback!

About the other issue, I can''t reproduce your problem with the on/off sustain pedal.
The ampeg_release using cc and curve is works normally, and I think it didn't cause that problem. I wonder also what the cause. One thing comes to mind probably the "sustain_lo=" adjustment.
If anybody else spot the same problem Jeff described, please share your knowledge.

[kinwie]

This is also going to be published at github sfzinstruments.
I can't decide which order of the Equalizer CCs is better.
If you guys can help give opinion...please....thanks!

A
head1.jpg

B
head2.jpg

still need opinions for this...

[Obsolete462444]

Version B seems more straightforward to me. Is it possible to show numerical values or will the generic interface only show percentages?

[kinwie]

Okay, 1 vote for B, thanks Kazi7
With the generic interface, it will show only in percentages, that's all we got...

But I'll put the infos in a readme for these controls,
The eq frequency range, width, damper, etc, all if them