Not everyone makes music like playing video games.antic604 wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 4:41 pm...and one of them is just pure fun of trying and using different DAWs. If one's able to actually finish a piece of music in the process then that's an added bonusfuzzlightyear wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 4:26 pmThere are plenty of different scenarios that may result in needing, wanting or just having more then one DAW.![]()
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Why do people use multiple DAWs?
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When people move the goal posts to make a point, there is no longer an original point to be made.
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- 35430 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
So your excuse for not knowing why people use different tools for different jobs is because you choose not to have an excuse?fuzzlightyear wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:08 pmI know many excuses too, I just choose not to use one.
You're not cloned from a guy called Numbanoid are you?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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I'm not sure what you're talking about, sounds like you're projecting your insecurities or something.whyterabbyt wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:15 pmSo your excuse for not knowing why people use different tools for different jobs is because you choose not to have an excuse?fuzzlightyear wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:08 pmI know many excuses too, I just choose not to use one.
You're not cloned from a guy called Numbanoid are you?
Anyways, what was said was...
...That kind of ties into the theory that some people are always bouncing between DAWs and starting new projects, but never really finishing one they're completely satisfied with. Which naturally comes from creative people making music. So they kind of feed off each other.
That would only be one scenario, another would be always looking for some kind of creative spark of inspiration that may result from playing around in a new and different environment. Costly, but applicable.
There are plenty of different scenarios that may result in needing, wanting or just having more then one DAW. But, the main thing is that you use/choose one that fits your workflow and needs and hopefully with a DAW company that listens to your feedback and treats you like a human being.
If you have trouble finding everything you need in one DAW, then maybe the company has some work to do, or maybe that's not the DAW for you or you can make it work. But, if you have expendable cash, why not have more toys, experiments, lab gear, etc. There's prototype music to build.
When people move the goal posts to make a point, there is no longer an original point to be made.
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- 35430 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Why would anyone be insecure about using different tools for different jobs, exactly?fuzzlightyear wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:17 pmI'm not sure what you're talking about, sounds like you're projecting your insecurities or something.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- addled muppet weed
- 111242 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i use one daw but multiple software hosts.
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- KVRAF
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Actually i wanted to add this option to the poll but then i decided the poll would be too big if i include all possible scenarios (and no place will be left for the fish optionDaveClark wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 4:55 pm Hi all,
I looked for another plugin developer to give this answer, but didn't see it:
For testing purposes and verifying problems.
There can be very large differences between DAWs in the way they initialize, operate, etc. Some of the differences are maddening.
Unfortunately, those of us who release free plugins cannot either justify the expense or cannot obtain NFR releases, so we cannot justify support for all hosts. Sometimes we can obtain demos or cut-down versions that seem to work, etc. Our lives would be a lot easier if everybody used the same DAW. Two major problems for me personally and probably for other developers are 1) Users don't believe that their DAW is ever at fault, and 2) Some DAW companies take forever to fix problems while others are very quick about it.
Regards,
Dave Clark
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I occasionally used the one or the other DAW beside Studio One, but, for a while now, I only have Studio One installed. Don't see the point, TBH. It will most likely only lie around catching dust anyway.
If Cubase will go dongle free at some point, I'll take another look on it, as I've always had a soft spot for it. But, for now, I don't need anything else apart from the main DAW.
If Cubase will go dongle free at some point, I'll take another look on it, as I've always had a soft spot for it. But, for now, I don't need anything else apart from the main DAW.
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I think some people tend to pick and choose what they read and others pick and choose what it means. If you can't understand what I was trying to say, without you having to agree with it, then there's really no answer to your questions.whyterabbyt wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:29 pmWhy would anyone be insecure about using different tools for different jobs, exactly?fuzzlightyear wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:17 pmI'm not sure what you're talking about, sounds like you're projecting your insecurities or something.
When people move the goal posts to make a point, there is no longer an original point to be made.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35430 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
And yet your answer to not understanding what I was trying to say was to concoct a childish ad hominem. How interesting.fuzzlightyear wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 6:01 pmI think some people tend to pick and choose what they read and others pick and choose what it means. If you can't understand what I was trying to say, without you having to agree with it, then there's really no answer to your questions.whyterabbyt wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:29 pmWhy would anyone be insecure about using different tools for different jobs, exactly?fuzzlightyear wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 5:17 pmI'm not sure what you're talking about, sounds like you're projecting your insecurities or something.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 26 Nov, 2009
I have found that many DAWs have like non-existent or limited, or bugged midi/keyboard functionality support, if I want to play my MPE and polyphonic aftertouch gear.
Tracktion Waveform is very underrated DAW, that's all I can say.
Tracktion Waveform is very underrated DAW, that's all I can say.
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The point that's trying to be made is, not getting caught up in the idea that you don't have what you already "need" to make music, sound, audio or whatever. Sure, there's plenty out there to make you life easier or whatever.whyterabbyt wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 6:20 pm And yet your answer to not understanding what I was trying to say was to concoct a childish ad hominem. How interesting.
The point is maybe it's a good idea to work on one's musicianship rather then relying on their tools to do the work for them. Sure, you get things done quicker and other people's ideas inspire you to create something new from it. But, that's what all beginners do for a very long time.
There are some people that want to improve their musicianship, producing, or whatever. That takes a lot of hard work and usually dedication, which can be "easier", only having to juggle one thing at a time, while learning something inside and out, to ultimately use their workflow optimally.
I'm sure there are a lot of people here that can vouch that GAS is a real thing and it's not always "fun".
When people move the goal posts to make a point, there is no longer an original point to be made.
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- KVRAF
- 2989 posts since 5 Nov, 2014
I made mistake with that example, total brain fart...pdxindy wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 4:48 pmIn Bitwig, click on the G2 on the left side piano roll and it selects all the G2 notesPassing Bye wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 4:38 pm
Imagine editing MIDI clip that spans for few minutes and you want to change just one note, for example instead of G in second octave use G# and there's so many of them in your clip, but you only want to select all the G's in second octave, selecting all of them and doing that in some DAW's is mater of seconds and few keystrokes and in others quite convoluted because you need to select and move every single note by hand.
Point is I barely have to do that and when I do, that's what I need to put up with if I choose to use Bitwig instead of Logic, I would love if Bitwig had those MIDI editing capabilities of Cubase/Logic, but that isn't showstopper for me, point is there's plenty of features one could miss.
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- KVRist
- 126 posts since 27 Nov, 2018
What is wrong with making music as a hobby? Only some pastimes can be used this way? I think music is a *fantastic* hobby, one of the most fulfilling. Some people spend there time and money on golf or other pursuits, others want to spend it on making music! Much better way to keep your brain sharp too!BONES wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:12 am
So what you're saying is that making music for you is nothing more than a way to fill your days? You have nothing that you want to achieve, you just need something to do with your hands? Knitting or crochet might be a better way to do that.
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- KVRian
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Yep, Been on both sides of that fence. Music is way better as a hobby than a vocation IMO(for a large number of people, obviously working out ok for someDrEntropy wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 9:22 pmWhat is wrong with making music as a hobby? Only some pastimes can be used this way? I think music is a *fantastic* hobby, one of the most fulfilling. Some people spend there time and money on golf or other pursuits, others want to spend it on making music! Much better way to keep your brain sharp too!BONES wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 3:12 am
So what you're saying is that making music for you is nothing more than a way to fill your days? You have nothing that you want to achieve, you just need something to do with your hands? Knitting or crochet might be a better way to do that.