Tape simulations for that mastering mojo.

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sleepcircle
KVRian
794 posts since 28 Nov, 2016

Post Fri May 29, 2020 4:23 pm

ok, maybe not MOST places, but it's a lot. i think it'd get people a negative impression on twitter, discord, tumblr, reddit—a whole bunch of sites.

either way, i don't have a bias about this; i prefaced the whole thing by saying that i thought you most likely meant the emoji in a positive way. i was just giving you a heads up.

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rezoneight
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282 posts since 18 Feb, 2004

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Post Fri May 29, 2020 5:51 pm

Yeah it was. A friendly wink. We use them in real life ;) (yes...positive way here too!). Never had a problem on Reddit. Twitter is a dumpster fire but that's another discussion. Don't use discord or tumblr.

Interesting though. Not sure how the bleep a wink turned into that but its the Internet. Nothing should shock me anymore.

sleepcircle
KVRian
794 posts since 28 Nov, 2016

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Post Fri May 29, 2020 6:49 pm

well, i have a couple theories, but it doesn't really matter. idk, it just seemed like something might be in danger of developing between you two. i apologize for being paranoid--i'll butt out of the conversation now.

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rezoneight
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282 posts since 18 Feb, 2004

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Post Fri May 29, 2020 7:54 pm

Nah its all good. Like I said, really enjoying this thread!

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zerocrossing
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10181 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

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Post Fri May 29, 2020 10:16 pm

sleepcircle wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 4:23 pm
either way, i don't have a bias about this;
How dare you not point out an obvious pun!
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JerGoertz
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2829 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

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Post Fri May 29, 2020 10:40 pm

Waiting for a scotch-tape/duct-tape simulation.
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Lotuz2019
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561 posts since 26 Apr, 2019 from Netherlands

Re: Tape simulations for that mastering mojo.

Post Fri May 29, 2020 11:07 pm

Dark Fiber wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 1:47 am
Reelbus4 is not an emulation, but more clean/modern sounding with a lot more options to fine-tune the sound.
ReelBus4 can be clean and dirty. I use it on the master, but also to make samples sound lofi.

wakax
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1827 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from Timisoara, Romania

Re: Tape simulations for that mastering mojo.

Post Fri May 29, 2020 11:50 pm

I use u-he Satin on master.
its great for what I want...

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PatchAdamz
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4933 posts since 13 Nov, 2012

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Post Sat May 30, 2020 12:35 am

Robmobius wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 5:06 am
Hello,

I've been using Slate's VTM for a good while now and I like it.
It does sound good.
UAD ans Waves also have some that are not bad.

Robmobius
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Re: Tape simulations for that mastering mojo.

Post Sat May 30, 2020 2:20 am

PatchAdamz wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 12:35 am
Robmobius wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 5:06 am
Hello,

I've been using Slate's VTM for a good while now and I like it.
It does sound good.
UAD ans Waves also have some that are not bad.
Cheers for the info!
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ramseysounds
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799 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Re: Tape simulations for that mastering mojo.

Post Sat May 30, 2020 2:26 am

MogwaiBoy wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 1:07 pm
Almost all their EQs cramp, saturators alias, or have noise and hum you can't disable etc.
There's almost always an analog button or 50/60Hz button you can turn off.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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zerocrossing
KVRAF
10181 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

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Post Sat May 30, 2020 7:16 am

I almost never use a tape emulation on the master, but I will use it on a track to warm up a cold sounding synth. I actually really like the VTAPE plugins by Virsyn. My favorite tape delays plugins are IK Tape Delay, Valhalla Delay, Enso and Augustusloop, though the last two are tape loopers, not really delays.

I’ve also gotten decent results with the UAD Fatso emulation’s tape emulation. It’s really nice to get some warmth on the somewhat cold sounding Peak. UAD has a tape emulation, but I didn’t buy it, or even try it, because they don’t have a way to put it on the 2 bus without doing a round trip from your DAW, which adds latency. I mostly use my DAW for live improvisation, so I need something that doesn’t add latency.
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4damind
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5038 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Re: Tape simulations for that mastering mojo.

Post Sat May 30, 2020 8:21 am

There are of course plugins with more color/distortion like Taupe or IKM. But after my tests these plugins are unusable because of the enormous CPU consumption and finally they are (IMO) too much for the current and modern sound. I would not use them on the master and only partially on groups/submixes.

VTM is still the best choice if you don't want a sound like in the 50s and where one instance eats the whole CPU ;) U-He Satin is also still quite good, needs little CPU and has a lot of settings (maybe too many for some users but there are also many presets)

Spring Goose
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706 posts since 31 Jan, 2020

Re: Tape simulations for that mastering mojo.

Post Sun May 31, 2020 11:40 am

telecode wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:59 pm
rezoneight wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 3:19 pm
Spring Goose wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 6:16 am

It's not sarcasm. What i meant is contrary what been said here in this thread, the sound of a hot Kramer tape can be quite/very beautiful. I love that Duran Duran song, it's a fantastic finish to an album, and some great drums, and reverent to the lovely sound of the Kramer tape (i think). I assume they (Duran Duran) used the original machine not the Waves plug but i think it does sound basically the same.
Given when Paper Gods came out and the description of how hard it was to come up with the right recording medium I'd assume they used the Waves plugin, not the real thing ;)
i liked paper gods. saw that tour as well. how do you guys know they used tape plugins on that record? you'd think DD have access to a lot of real good studios and gear.
The crunchy sound, that's the Kramer tape (i think). I think it's audible from when the drum comes in at 1.30

This song:
Spring Goose wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 12:21 pm
What's wrong with the sound of the Waves Kramer Tape?

It sounds alright if you ask me.

https://youtu.be/PTbJsE65nLs
Spring Goose wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 6:16 am
I recognised it (the tape) because i had made a track with a similar sound:
https://soundcloud.com/user-492255322/2 ... ossible-ep

Noumena
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162 posts since 4 May, 2019

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Post Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:26 pm

Doesn’t Kramer’s alias like crazy, though? I’ve been preferring Magnititie from black rooster and Softube Tape for the last two years.

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