Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

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tony10000
KVRian
929 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Post Fri May 29, 2020 2:35 pm

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Last edited by tony10000 on Fri May 29, 2020 2:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

tony10000
KVRian
929 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Fri May 29, 2020 2:36 pm

Yeah, I am disappointed in their focus on copy protection and their lack of support. That is why Ableton is my primary DAW. The copy protection is not burdensome and they are consistently addressing bugs and providing updates.

chk071
KVRAF
24498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Fri May 29, 2020 2:40 pm

Milkman wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 10:38 am
Yup. Steinberg sure have put a lot of time and effort into heavy duty copy protection, and imo not enough into various outstanding issues, from the workflow-breaking bugs to annoying, persistent minor bugs.
The people who develop the copy protection aren't the ones developing their audio software. Arguing that its development takes away from their audio software features is nonsense.
Plugins and a DAW. On a operating system. Which runs on a computer.

tony10000
KVRian
929 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Fri May 29, 2020 2:51 pm

chk071 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:40 pm
Milkman wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 10:38 am
Yup. Steinberg sure have put a lot of time and effort into heavy duty copy protection, and imo not enough into various outstanding issues, from the workflow-breaking bugs to annoying, persistent minor bugs.
The people who develop the copy protection aren't the ones developing their audio software. Arguing that its development takes away from their audio software features is nonsense.
It is more of an issue of where a company puts its emphasis. It is possible to have decent copy protection and decent support. They are not mutually exclusive.

chk071
KVRAF
24498 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Fri May 29, 2020 3:03 pm

Well... if you think they put more emphasis on their copy protection than on developing their audio software, then think again. Developing the copy protection is done by a separate team, and, it's not nearly as much work as defveloping their audio software will be...

No idea why you think that there's more emphasis on that.
Plugins and a DAW. On a operating system. Which runs on a computer.

felis
KVRian
647 posts since 25 Jul, 2009

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Fri May 29, 2020 4:13 pm

I just opened up Elements and GA SE. In task manager, mine shows only one instance of Cubase.

In the screenshot you posted, it shows two (2) instances of Cubase running.

tony10000
KVRian
929 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Fri May 29, 2020 4:22 pm

One is Cubase. The other is a tab with GA SE.

felis
KVRian
647 posts since 25 Jul, 2009

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Fri May 29, 2020 7:08 pm

tony10000 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 4:22 pm
One is Cubase. The other is a tab with GA SE.
OK - but I had them both open too. I'm not sure how it's actually supposed to be.
I haven't looked at it before because I haven't had trouble with it.

Looked at it again, and you have two separate pics.

The first one of the 'Taskbar' shows two (2) instances of Cubase running.

Milkman
KVRist
34 posts since 17 Mar, 2005 from Bay Area

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Sun May 31, 2020 11:04 pm

chk071 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:40 pm
Milkman wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 10:38 am
Yup. Steinberg sure have put a lot of time and effort into heavy duty copy protection, and imo not enough into various outstanding issues, from the workflow-breaking bugs to annoying, persistent minor bugs.
The people who develop the copy protection aren't the ones developing their audio software. Arguing that its development takes away from their audio software features is nonsense.
Even though they dont do all the work, they clearly have to format and integrate the copy protection, test it on all their packages, deal with all the consequences of it on systems, etc.

My comment stands -- put more work (or resources) into a myriad of open issues.

Milkman
KVRist
34 posts since 17 Mar, 2005 from Bay Area

Re: Cubase and Groove Agent SE Problems

Post Sun May 31, 2020 11:05 pm

tony10000 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:51 pm
chk071 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:40 pm
Milkman wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 10:38 am
Yup. Steinberg sure have put a lot of time and effort into heavy duty copy protection, and imo not enough into various outstanding issues, from the workflow-breaking bugs to annoying, persistent minor bugs.
The people who develop the copy protection aren't the ones developing their audio software. Arguing that its development takes away from their audio software features is nonsense.
It is more of an issue of where a company puts its emphasis. It is possible to have decent copy protection and decent support. They are not mutually exclusive.
Yes, I get that. 30 year net/sysadmin, worked for many startups, etc. Yep.

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