So, what do you think should happen? That the police should arrest anyone who decided to stop offering a product, and eventually ended support on it? Your sense of entitlement is incredible.crazyfiltertweaker wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:34 amIs it really allowed that a company stopp support for old users just because they were bought by apple?
I want to re-install Camel Audio Alchemy...
- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
- Beware the Quoth
- 33175 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
you know he's basically not been back here since mid-February, right?teilo wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:03 pmSo, what do you think should happen? That the police should arrest anyone who decided to stop offering a product, and eventually ended support on it? Your sense of entitlement is incredible.crazyfiltertweaker wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:34 amIs it really allowed that a company stopp support for old users just because they were bought by apple?
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:09 pmyou know he's basically not been back here since mid-February, right?teilo wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 6:03 pmSo, what do you think should happen? That the police should arrest anyone who decided to stop offering a product, and eventually ended support on it? Your sense of entitlement is incredible.crazyfiltertweaker wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:34 amIs it really allowed that a company stopp support for old users just because they were bought by apple?
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
- KVRAF
- 5145 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
for the latest Alchemy, u do need a Mac,
but Mainstage has it as well as Logic-
Mainstage is largely more affordable
The Windows installer needs to be one tied to an account.
Your name will show on the UI of your install,
which is the last ver. for WIN
(edited mistake)
but Mainstage has it as well as Logic-
Mainstage is largely more affordable
The Windows installer needs to be one tied to an account.
Your name will show on the UI of your install,
which is the last ver. for WIN
(edited mistake)
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- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
- KVRAF
- 5145 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 15 Jan, 2014
I was lucky as I had downloaded Alcheny 1.55 and kept a folder with all the soundbanks and the 1.55 installer. Which is what we were told to do. I have just migrated to a new computer and kept this for the last task. I have just installed iy. It, surprisingly went like a dream and it loaded all the sound libraries et al. The 1.55 version does not ask for passwords. I am quite relieved, as many of my older projects used Alchemy a lot and I have 15 sound banks. I am afraid that you just have to keep a record of these things. I was lucky in that I saw what was happening and am firmly Windows, so followed Camel Audio's instructions. I would never have anything to do with Apple.
- KVRAF
- 13223 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
I really do not understand why people blame Apple.
They found a good product and probably made a very attractive offer.
I have not heard any evidence or even rumours that they did it at gun point.
It was Ben to say no.
But naw, let us blame Apple.
rsp
They found a good product and probably made a very attractive offer.
I have not heard any evidence or even rumours that they did it at gun point.
It was Ben to say no.
But naw, let us blame Apple.
rsp
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- KVRAF
- 1702 posts since 2 Jul, 2007
Alchemy has remained on my DAWs! Nothing like it.
INTERFACE: RME ADI-2/4 Pro/Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core/BAE 1073 MPF Dual/Heritage Audio Successor+SYMPH EQ
SYNTHS: Korg Kronos X 88/Yamaha Montage M8x/Sequential Trigon 6/
Behringer DM12D/Pro-800
SYNTHS: Korg Kronos X 88/Yamaha Montage M8x/Sequential Trigon 6/
Behringer DM12D/Pro-800
- KVRist
- 31 posts since 20 Apr, 2011
Having bought an Ableton pack recently that turned out to have a developer that was no longer in business I was pontificating about the 'abandonware' betrayal of this pack and the even greater disappearing act of Camel Audio on Youtube today but only then decided to look into installing my old copy of Alchemy on a new DAW computer. Your words
gave me hope, back then I did save the necessary files once they warned us in their mailings. Fortunately on an old computer I could find the 1.55 installer installer without too much trouble and from several directories I collected the glorious *.CamelSounds soundpacks (remembering how 'shockingly' expensive most of them were). Oh joy, besides taking quite some time, the VST and libraries installed installed without problems and on loading the VST it only asked the location of the root data folder in order to scan the generous collection of presets (the factory pack alone seems to have 838 presets!). Now I was not 'rich enough' to buy many sound/preset-packs back then but it is such a thrill to have this soft synth working again. Pity we didn't get the other presets for free when they sold their soul to ApL.
- KVRist
- 31 posts since 20 Apr, 2011
That's a good tip. The installer does not call home to a server that does not exist any longer, if you have your ('legitimate') 1.55 installer you should be able to install it without problems. If you have .CamelSounds libraries you should place them in the same directory as the installer but since there is an auxiliary program "install sound libraries" you could install those sounds later on.
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- KVRAF
- 4377 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
I was lucky in that during the months after the announcement and before CA shut up shop I sold all my CA stuff. If I recall correctly this was years ago, right?
Weird thing was then getting it all back again in my DAW...
Edit. Need more coffee, didn't realize thread was necro'd. 'Betrayal' guy, I think you should get that seen to, it could start to fester if you're not careful. Companies are not your lovers or family, they just sell you shit.
Weird thing was then getting it all back again in my DAW...
Edit. Need more coffee, didn't realize thread was necro'd. 'Betrayal' guy, I think you should get that seen to, it could start to fester if you're not careful. Companies are not your lovers or family, they just sell you shit.
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- KVRist
- 31 posts since 20 Apr, 2011
Thanks for that profound business masterclass gramp, so honored to receive one of your 'fountain of knowledge' seven-a-day KVR posts! It is clear you really have reflected long and hard about questions like “Would customer trust & Loyalty be good things for business? “ and “Could it be that having repeat customers is more profitable?”. So refreshing to have somebody suggest that selling unsupported software (‘abandonware’) that soon will stop working is from a business ethics point of view entirely legitimate.