need a stereo widener
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neverbeeninariot neverbeeninariot https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=350084
- KVRian
- 912 posts since 3 Feb, 2015 from UK
https://joeysturgistones.com/products/sidewidener - currently £16 from JST, but it's also free if you purchased any recent-ish issue of Computer Music.
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- KVRian
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izotope imager is pretty dang good considering how much it costs which is nothing
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- KVRAF
- 4359 posts since 30 Aug, 2012 from Sweden
Why do you think you need widener? This is one of the most asked from beginners and it's one of the worst plugins that exist. No truly. You want something to sound wider? Make something else narrower in the mix.
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- KVRAF
- 3089 posts since 4 May, 2012
This.Daimonicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:47 pmWhy do you think you need widener? This is one of the most asked from beginners and it's one of the worst plugins that exist. No truly. You want something to sound wider? Make something else narrower in the mix.
Also.
Imbalance creates width. Many synths can or simply will produce variations on a signal with each instance. Nothing like hard panning to give a huge sense of width. Any natural sounding variation you can impart on these signals can improve the illusion. 2CAudio's Precedence can work well for this with a little tweaking.
True emulations of analogue processors can also help to impart subtle variation that should sum cleanly.
Then it might be best to create the stereo difference whilst monitoring in mono so that you can pay attention to obvious phase issues before switching back to stereo.
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- addled muppet weed
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- 35191 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
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- KVRAF
- 4068 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
I usually just use voxengo delay along with a M/S EQ if I want a nice artificial stereo effect. If there is already some stereo info in the signal, I find that a simple MSED type encoder/ decoder effect can bring the stereo out in a clean way. I don’t generally worry about mono compatibility anymore. I have had no problems with it on any project I have worked on in at least the past 10 years.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
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- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
Really? ADSR doesn't agree with you and neither do I. Care to prove your point with some real facts?ElevateAudio wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:44 amThe free Polyverse widener is garbage. It turns your audio into a phasy mess. It would be hard to find a worse widener.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QEWbRmlwqo
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Yeah heres a suggestion. Use your ears. Put it on a stereo audio file, increase the mix level and then tell me it doesn't turn into a phasy mess. If you can't hear it then there's no helping you.ATN69 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:04 amReally? ADSR doesn't agree with you and neither do I. Care to prove your point with some real facts?ElevateAudio wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:44 amThe free Polyverse widener is garbage. It turns your audio into a phasy mess. It would be hard to find a worse widener.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QEWbRmlwqo
Addendum: I put this piece of shit back on my computer after immediately trashing it after trying it originally, on the off chance they fixed it or there was something wrong on my end. Nope. Put a dry drum loop on with this and listen to it it turn your drum loop into a phase shifted mess with mix levels of higher than 50%. If you're looking for a phase shifter then in your in luck. Otherwise this thing is useless. Back to the trash it goes.
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- KVRian
- 670 posts since 7 May, 2002 from Phoenix, Arizona, USA
https://nugenaudio.com/stereoizer/
The nugen stereoizer surprised me by becoming my favorite widener so far. Previously it was the one in ozone. It can widen without obviously changing the frequency balance and sound quite natural, as well as giving a lot of control. Quite expensive normally, though I was able to get it on discount through the focusrite/novation plugin promos.
The nugen stereoizer surprised me by becoming my favorite widener so far. Previously it was the one in ozone. It can widen without obviously changing the frequency balance and sound quite natural, as well as giving a lot of control. Quite expensive normally, though I was able to get it on discount through the focusrite/novation plugin promos.