What synths are in equal or better footing than VPS Avenger?

[Tannaliini]

How about Serum? You said you are noob, same here! And the thing about Serum is that even I can use it
I mean it has this simple visual interface. But it still can give very "strong" sounds. And it has huge amount of tutorials on youtube for free. But I think it's most suitable for EDM (and maybe not for drums, not sure since I have been focusing for synths + basses + plucks).

[Kwurqx]

I've been testing a lot synths demos recently but I really don't know anything about sound design but I plan to learn with the synths I'm going to buy. I like the sounds of some like Dune 3, Sylenth1 that I plan to buy, but I also want something with many many capabilities and I don't know how to recognize one because I'm a noob.

Similar questions were asked here before...

General advise: first try to find out what you want/need, before investing your time and money.

It as as much about the cook (you) as about the kitchen (the synths). Great tools will not automatically generate great results. Also, more is not always better. A swiss army knive will not outperform a specialized tool like a chainsaw or even a screwdriver.

It will require a lot of knowledge to get the best out of any synth. But even more to get the best out of complex synths (or even modulars). You could compare the first to a toolbox with limited tools and the latter to a well equipped workshop.

Tip: There are many great FREE synths and FX that can help you find out what you like and want.

Maybe start the journey with the free ebook:

Simon Cann - How to make a Noise
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=76293

And one of the (now free) synths he uses in his book:

Surge
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/

[StardragonEX]

I've been testing a lot synths demos recently but I really don't know anything about sound design but I plan to learn with the synths I'm going to buy. I like the sounds of some like Dune 3, Sylenth1 that I plan to buy, but I also want something with many many capabilities and I don't know how to recognize one because I'm a noob.

I wanted to buy VPS Avenger, but a week ago I found that VPS Avenger was using a DRM (Digital-Right Management) system that runs all the time (CodeMeter to be precise), even when I'm not using the synth. Even if it takes a little of CPU, I think that is abusive. I want to find a synth that sounds good, but that also have amazing capabilities like VPS Avenger or that is even better.

Can you help me to find an alternative? Can you tell me how does it compare to VPS Avenger? (Is it in worse footing, same footing, better footing?

Current list:

• Parawave RAPID
• kiloHeart Phase Plant
• UVI Falcon

PD: I will be updating this post to add the plugins people recommend me.

I really think you put too much emphasis on this buying decision. Just like every single one of us, you will end up with at least 10-20 payware synths anyway, time after time.

Probably :/

[StardragonEX]

I've been testing a lot synths demos recently but I really don't know anything about sound design but I plan to learn with the synths I'm going to buy. I like the sounds of some like Dune 3, Sylenth1 that I plan to buy, but I also want something with many many capabilities and I don't know how to recognize one because I'm a noob.

Similar questions were asked here before...

General advise: first try to find out what you want/need, before investing your time and money.

It as as much about the cook (you) as about the kitchen (the synths). Great tools will not automatically generate great results. Also, more is not always better. A swiss army knive will not outperform a specialized tool like a chainsaw or even a screwdriver.

It will require a lot of knowledge to get the best out of any synth. But even more to get the best out of complex synths (or even modulars). You could compare the first to a toolbox with limited tools and the latter to a well equipped workshop.

Tip: There are many great FREE synths and FX that can help you find out what you like and want.

Maybe start the journey with the free ebook:

Simon Cann - How to make a Noise
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=76293

And one of the (now free) synths he uses in his book:

Surge
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/

Maybe you are right. Maybe I'm too obsessed with finding the best synth for me.

I will try that.

[Teksonik]

I can add a +1 for Parawave Rapid. I've been spending more time with it lately and it's climbing up the list of my favorite synths.

[StardragonEX]

By the way, if you really don’t want CodeMeter to run all the time it should be quite easy to do that (assuming you are on a PC). Just set the CodeMeter service to manual and reboot. The service will start itself when you open your DAW/Avenger. Then you can stop it again when you are finished. Not worth the effort IMHO but a viable option if it’s important to you.

I didn't knew that. I searched for it in my browser and I found the way to do it. Nice.

[SLiC]

I can add a +1 for Parawave Rapid. I've been spending more time with it lately and it's climbing up the list of my favorite synths.

Its funny how many people (including me!) discovered rapid 'slowly'!

[StardragonEX]

I added a poll so you can vote for the plugins that were recommended. So I can know what to save for.

[SirkusPi]

I've been seeing more and more positive posts about Rapid. I think it goes on pretty good sale every now and then; I know I'll certainly be keeping an eye out for the next time it does!

(Of the items in the poll, I currently have Synthmaster and Reaktor, both of which to me were well worth the purchase. I also have MSoundFactory, which I got for very cheap on intro sale. It looks incredible for people who "click" with it, but that hasn't been me yet.)

[Mirko R.]

I'm hoping they eventually add an analog-style oscillator that introduces non-linearities.

Did you try the "Organic Drift" Osc Insert Effect for Wavetables? Maybe that's what you are looking for.

[teilo]

I'm hoping they eventually add an analog-style oscillator that introduces non-linearities.

Did you try the "Organic Drift" Osc Insert Effect for Wavetables? Maybe that's what you are looking for.

Not quite. There are a variety of non-linearities in an analog oscillator. Pitch drift is only one of them. There are also differences in harmonic content both over time and note range. A truly analog-modeled oscillator takes all these into account. And there is even some intrinsic line noise that contributes to the organic sound.

EDIT: Sorry, I had my synths confused, and thought we were talking about Phase Plant. I had forgotten about OG in Rapid, since it's a newer feature. It's more than just pitch. It also does some things to the waveform, and introduces phase drift. This is certainly closer to the mark. Thank you for pointing that out.

[Teksonik]

Maybe I'm too obsessed with finding the best synth for me.

It's the only thing you should be obsessed with.......

[StardragonEX]

What do make Zebra 2 good?

[V0RT3X]

What do make Zebra 2 good?

You know if you don't really know what you need for synthesis then maybe you should answer some basic questions first before shopping around.

There are tons of questions to ask yourself such as..

1. What kind of music do you plan on making?

2. What sort of sounds do you want to make? Maybe post some examples of you want to create (use Youtube, Soundcloud etc).

3. How powerful is your computer?

4. Do you want to emulate the sound of specific "Hardware" synthesizers ?

5. Are you willing to spend the time learning a "Supersynth" that has multiple synthesis methods such as Zebra etc? Or are you more interested in just using and tweaking presets?

6. What is your Budget?

[jeffb01]

I’m surprised there are so many votes for falcon. It’s a really good synth, but it’s not very intuitive. I’m recommending against it. Rapid is great. Try out pigments, too.