Upcoming Synapse OB-Xa: Obsession

[Teksonik]

Well like I said you should know five minutes after you try the OBsession demo. It will either speak to you or not. Time will tell.....

Years ago when I learned The Legend was going to be a Moog emulation I thought to myself "Oh no not another VA. Don't we have enough already? I've got a folder full."

But when I first tried it I played three notes and it reached out and bitch slapped me and said "I am Legend" and I've been in love with it ever since even though I'm not really a huge fan of the MiniMoog.

There is just something about it that speaks to me......

[EnGee]

He posted examples and I liked them

There were some nice sounds there, and I liked them too

I don't know what are you trying to say?!

It happens. You don't know what I'm trying to say, and I don't know why you're getting upset. Unless you now plan to propose marriage I suggest we move on

That the synth sounds good doesn't mean it is a good emulation! Ok! So?

Again, you're putting words in peoples mouths and implying things are being said which nobody is saying. I haven't used the product, so it would be pretty dumb of me to judge something before knowing all its merits. There are many aspects which go into making a good synth. Some you might like, some you might not, but ultimately it's a combination of things - and a good product speaks for itself, regardless of what anyone posts on a forum

Sorry! I overreacted Yes, this is true! A good product speaks for itself.

[Yorrrrrr]

Well like I said you should know five minutes after you try the OBsession demo. It will either speak to you or not. Time will tell.....

Years ago when I learned The Legend was going to be a Moog emulation I thought to myself "Oh no not another VA. Don't we have enough already? I've got a folder full."

But when I first tried it I played three notes and it reached out and bitch slapped me and said "I am Legend" and I've been in love with it ever since even though I'm not really a huge fan of the MiniMoog.

There is just something about it that speaks to me......

Yeah, I felt the same with Legend.

[wagtunes]

Well like I said you should know five minutes after you try the OBsession demo. It will either speak to you or not. Time will tell.....

Years ago when I learned The Legend was going to be a Moog emulation I thought to myself "Oh no not another VA. Don't we have enough already? I've got a folder full."

But when I first tried it I played three notes and it reached out and bitch slapped me and said "I am Legend" and I've been in love with it ever since even though I'm not really a huge fan of the MiniMoog.

There is just something about it that speaks to me......

The Legend is the only Minimoog emulation I use anymore. There are very few synths that I own that are like that.

[SiliconDeath]

But for me it's about nailing the sound when you say it is a certain synth, more than adding a slew of new/modern features.

Why? It seems like a massive waste of time and effort to me, especially when it comes to coding in all the bad things as well as the good things. e.g. The way the ladder filter attenuates the bass register when you increase resonance. Surely a synth that addressed and eliminated those unwanted characteristics would be a better synth and a better use of development time?

I think choices are best things, we can have it both ways. Similar to how there's "old/new" in Legend (and some other synths, like the "tweaker" section in Repro, and voice behaviour/reset in Diva), you should be able to select between "analog" (bass will attenuate with resonance increase) and "modern" (bass will not attenuate). I think having them both would make everyone happy, with little to no real downside, other than having to "allocate GUI space in tweaker menu" for this selector.

I've been really struggling with this whole Arturia vs Obsession vs Oberheim thing, forgetting that I really don't need another synth. But then who does.

Well, the 15 minute mark of this video finally made me realize that the Arturia doesn't even come close to the real thing. And since there really isn't anything in V7 that i desperately need, I've decided to pass on the Arturia sale.

I was gonna say that you can "buy into their eco" and later get cheaper upgrade for FX collection (since this would be legitimate good thing), but if I remember correctly you only get for it discounts from owning FX plugins

I didn't test their OB-Xa V, but comparing Synthi V to Xils4, the Arturia didn't sound very favorable to me. Admitedly, their preset manager is much better (and makes more sense), and some of presets were pretty good, but XILS overall just sounds better. I will keep using their Pigments (which is great), but I'll get the VAs from somewhere else.

[BONES]

Well, the 15 minute mark of this video finally made me realize that the Arturia doesn't even come close to the real thing. And since there really isn't anything in V7 that i desperately need, I've decided to pass on the Arturia sale.

Wow, that is way wide of the mark. And reading his description, he did tweak the sounds to try and make them as close as he could.

I'd be stunned if Obsession could duplicate that patch at the 15 minute mark in such detail. I just don't think soft synths are capable of doing this yet.

You may well be in for a treat, I think OBSession shouldn't have too much trouble with that.

If I'm going to get Obession, I'm first going to want to hear a side by side comparison of that patch from each synth. Then I'll know.

And that's providing I can get by the modulation system of this synth that I never really did like. It's the only one I ever had to actually read the manual to understand. Honestly, while the original synth sounded great, the design, as far as user friendliness, left a lot to be desired. At least IMO. I never really liked it. It was the sound that sold me, period.

Yes, it is a bit of a strange beast, isn't it? It looks deceptively simple but definitely has hidden depths. And some of the decisions are just stupid, like having a triangle wave if you don't select either Saw or Pulse. You could own the thing for years and never realise it was there.

Yeah, I felt the same with Legend.

I felt the opposite - as much as there is to like about it, that filter kills it for me every time. I'd be the same with OBSession if it wasn't for the 2 pole LPF. The 4 pole is diabolically bad.

I think choices are best things, we can have it both ways. Similar to how there's "old/new" in Legend

Yeah but when you leave that horrid filter as the only option, nothing else you do can makes up for that. Legend could come with laser guided missiles and I still wouldn't be interested because of that filter.

you should be able to select between "analog" (bass will attenuate with resonance increase) and "modern" (bass will not attenuate).

Except that's not analogue behaviour, that's just shitful ladder filter behaviour. It doesn't happen with Oberheim's SEM or the 2 pole filter in OB-Xa.

[AnX]

5th S&H reso filter sweep

pretty sure that's in the original hw factory bank, name looks familiar

easy enough to copy and try (patch book is freely available)

[PAK]

5th S&H reso filter sweep

pretty sure that's in the original hw factory bank, name looks familiar
easy enough to copy and try (patch book is freely available)

It is indeed. Factory Preset D2 - S&H in Fifths. And (shock, horror) the Arturia Factory preset sounds significantly more like his hardware synth than the version he presents on his Youtube video. Vintage hardware owners tend not to be the most impartial when it comes to making the best of such comparisons

So don't draw too many conclusions when that's the case. If in doubt, you have to try things for yourself. Same goes, btw, if any of these videos pop up and do the same thing with Obsession. If things are waayyyy off there's a decent chance the person comparing may not be doing as well as they might.

That goes especially for using more advanced features like any voice adjustments which Obsession might feature . The chances your average vintage synth owner will use those effectively to narrow differences, with their hardware, is typically somewhere around the zero percent mark

[AnX]

yeah, i never give YT vids much credence, quite funny when ppl talk about how amazing/crap something sounds without noticing the plethora of FX or crap audio quality

[Ingonator]

Well like I said you should know five minutes after you try the OBsession demo. It will either speak to you or not. Time will tell.....

Years ago when I learned The Legend was going to be a Moog emulation I thought to myself "Oh no not another VA. Don't we have enough already? I've got a folder full."

But when I first tried it I played three notes and it reached out and bitch slapped me and said "I am Legend" and I've been in love with it ever since even though I'm not really a huge fan of the MiniMoog.

There is just something about it that speaks to me......

With both The Legend and OBsession i fell in love with those synths after just a few minutes of using them and this had not changed after having used them for a longer time.

No need for another Minimoog emulation for me since i got The Legend and somehow i feel the same with Obsession concerning OB-Xa.

I have used OBsession for a long time now and also used the demo version of Arturia OB-Xa V.
Already using OBsession (which i highly prefer over the Arturia plugin) and not really interested in the other plugins in V-Collection 7 upgrading from V-Collection 6 to VC7 + OB-Xa V somehow feels like a waste of money and while the offer ends today i do not plan to buy the upgrade. Might change when V-Collection 8 is out but that's not sure.

The fact that some of my favorite features in OBsession are not included in the Arturia plugin is another story. I already mentiond that the latest version includes new features that were not included in the teaser video.

[Vortifex]

Day 2153: Still no release. Hope fading...

[Echoes in the Attic]

Day 2153: Still no release. Hope fading...

You realize that the following post was exactly three days ago right?

So....
When?
rsp

Getting very close Beta testers have been incredible, responding to new versions lighting fast so we could make rapid progress and pretty much finish the plugin. Some work is left to do on the factory library and manual. Hard to estimate how long this will take exactly, but roughly 1-2 weeks should be realistic.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I've been saying it since release: the OB-X V just does NOT sound like a modern, top-o-the-line emulation of an analog poly synth. It sounds legit bad by that [admittedly high] standard. And to be specific, I'm talking compared to things like Diva, RePro, The Legend, Monark (still great, even with The Legend), then the Roland Cloud stuff (which I personally rate below U-he despite owning the System-8 hardware), Tal, and even some of the better Arturia analogs like their Buchla. I'm glad others are starting to come to that conclusion. Didn't take YouTube videos comparing to the hardware to hear it wasn't up to snuff either.

I remain optimistic that OBsession won't have the same problem, but it'll be wait an dsee.

[chk071]

Day 2153: Still no release. Hope fading...

You realize that the following post was exactly three days ago right?

So....
When?
rsp

Getting very close Beta testers have been incredible, responding to new versions lighting fast so we could make rapid progress and pretty much finish the plugin. Some work is left to do on the factory library and manual. Hard to estimate how long this will take exactly, but roughly 1-2 weeks should be realistic.

Don't ruin the desperation.

[carrieres]

someone have an idea of the release date of the P600 ?